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 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 10:11 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I thought this was a great and underrated movie, I loved it!

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

I love it, too.

Thought it's always been underrated.

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 10:56 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

One of my favorites. For its time the effects were spectacular too. Really wish there were more "science fiction" films. Star Wars and Star Trek just don't count.

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

Wish I could say the same... was monumentally disappointed in this one. Oh well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2012 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

I recognize 2001 for the ground breaking movie it is, but for entertainment value, I way prefer 2010.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Well, none of it has happened. So their timeline sucks...

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Whatever virtues the film has as an attempt to tell a coherent kind of story (which 2001 didn't) were undermined by Hyams sledgehammer dosage of politics that became dated in 1989.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

Love the letters on the screen telling us what is happening! Like they were compensating for 2001's ambiguous ending.

Very subtle.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Solium points out the movie`s one real virtue for me, that is is a science fiction movie--not a space adventure or futuristic love story or some other version of what Hollywood does with SF, which is gut it of what makes it such and just uses the window dressing on another genre. I am not a fan of Hyams but his visual approach adds a nice sense of `future` in the Earthbound scenes--I love the interior of Scheider`s house--but the shipboard scenes are oddly flat. The contrast between US and Soviet ships was a good idea, but the Discovery interiors have all the chilly awe of an otherworldly ship, when it`s actually a decade or so older. The politics and switching back to Earth keep us from any sense of being in space, in the future, and there is zero payoff. Still, it is an optimistic look at the future, and Shire`s score works for me. I enjoy putting it on every few years because of that SF-ness Solium mentioned.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   El Goodo   (Member)

Here is a very nice audio interview with Peter Hyams about 2010 and his relationship with Kubrick:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/moviegeeksunited/2011/01/11/the-kubrick-series-uncut-peter-hyams




 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I saw this back-to-back with 2001, and in comparison 2010 seemed more than a little mundane. Or, depending on one's point of view, much less pretentious. wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Seemed a bit careless of Bowman to destroy Max's pod when he was exiting the monolith. But yeah, I love the film. Too bad the dates have come and gone....the problem with having any scifi with a year in the title.(SPACE 1999 anyone?)
Hyams also used the wrong Ligeti cue for the monolith (Lux Aeterna instead of Requiem).

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

Eric Paddon wrote: Whatever virtues the film has as an attempt to tell a coherent kind of story (which 2001 didn't) were undermined by Hyams sledgehammer dosage of politics that became dated in 1989.

You realize the movie was based on Clarke's book? And futurist Clarke didn't foresee the collapse of the Soviet Union, either. As for being dated, I guess you don't read any news about world events.

Charles Thaxton wrote: Seemed a bit careless of Bowman to destroy Max's pod when he was exiting the monolith.

That didn't happen in the book. Hollywood always needs some drama in the form of explosions or other loud noises to let the audience know when something dramatic has happened. ("Do you know you didn't even give them a good bang at the end of songs so they knew when to clap?" —Salieri, AMADEUS)

Too bad the dates have come and gone....the problem with having any scifi with a year in the title.

That's only a problem for people who view science fiction as "predictions." Speculative fiction may be alternate history, or the exact date may be irrelevant. Then there are the dystopian, cautionary tales which some mistake for a blueprint of the future...

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

You realize the movie was based on Clarke's book? And futurist Clarke didn't foresee the collapse of the Soviet Union, either.

Try re-reading the book. There is no World War III confrontation over Central America hanging over the proceedings. That was entirely Hyams' invention. Much as I'm not fan of 2001, I at least give Kubrick credit for not being overt in the US-Russia competition in the space station scene, which had the long-term effect of not making the scene dated as a result of 1989.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Eric, I didn`t read the novel, but that makes sense, the political stuff really stuck out as an attempt to make the story relevent to Today. Everyone knows SF stories about The Future are about Today even if it`s only to show where our current choices or values MIGHT lead, but even average writers have done far better commenting on contemporary issues in SF by being more oblique. [That`s kind of the whole point in using SF to talk about now--you can unshackle people from their prejudices and defenses if instead of talking about whites vs. minorities you write about humans vs. aliens.]I contrast 2010 with 2001 the way I do FAIL SAFE with STRANGELOVE--the former are treatments by average or decent directors doing what 99% do, follow the rules and framework. Kubrick wanted to push into new areas for these sorts of movies while still aiming at a mainstream [ADULT mainstream] viewership.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Hi guys! Some of the things I like about the movie is the cast, and the movie kept me interested, and I like the optimistic ending, "Something wonderful is going to happen". I'm a sucker for a happy ending. Also, it explained some things from the first movie, which I also love but didn't understand. The first time I saw this movie was in 9th grade science class, I enjoyed it then too. Again, I thought Scheider and Lithgow were great. On a side note, 2001 is one of my co-worker's favorite film, but he didn't care for 2010 that much.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I also love happy endings because i believe if not here, somewhere there will be a good conclusion made of honest justice, but it may not really be the end but the beginning.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

I always thought they should've had William Sylvester (who was still around I think) reprise his role as Floyd and have Scheider play another character (for continuity's sake)

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I remember that in the book that published early primitive e-mail exchanges between Clarke and Hyams, Clarke mentioned that he'd heard from Sylvester but that he didn't think this was part of a pitch to get his old part again, adding that he was "semi-retired" at that point. Frankly, I don't think that was a viable option since Floyd is the central character of the book and you couldn't have an unknown in the part.

I do give Hyams credit for remembering the character of Floyd's daughter from 2001 when Floyd mentions he has a daughter who's 17 now. But the biggest plot hole Hyams created was when Floyd indignantly declares, "I never authorized anyone to tell HAL about the monolith!" But the video message Bowman finds from Floyd after he deactivates HAL reveals otherwise. That alas, would not have squared with Hyams' blatant political message.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2012 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Henry, Thanks for adding that comment, because as already noted, the things I most like about this are in the whole idea--it is a science fiction movie [not just a sf adventure] but again, an optimistic future sf story. If you enjoy that you might try some of Arthur C. Clarke`s fiction. His IMPERIAL EARTH is a very entertaining `optimistic` sf novel, really a tour of the future solar system society than a dramatic novel. And Helen Mirren is one of the few non-macho yet strong female sf movie characters post-Ripley. [There`s a thread idea--optimistic non-action/adventure sf movies.]

 
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