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Just got this in the mail & listening to it now.
*tear*
Thank you, Intrada. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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I don't have the musical vocabulary for this but I'll muddle...
Does anyone else think the Shadow Theme is kind of the "dark version" of Voyager? I remember when Voyager came out that I noticed that the structure of the main theme and then the bridge of both seem to follow the same rhythms only the Shadow goes down where Voyager goes up. Am I crazy? Is there anything to this idea?
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This truly is an outstanding release. Now I can finally appreciate what an intelligent score this is. Now in its complete form for me it ranks among Goldsmith's best efforts. I don´t know if Goldsmith liked the assignment... but it sure sounds that way. As if he were having fun with it...
My thoughts exactly.
The track "What I Know" is an incredible treat. I recognize this music as the scene where Baldwin & Miller have a brief conversation in Lamont Cranston's beautifully photographed living room before segueing into the Shadow's nightmare. But the track actually sounds like 2 different versions back to back. I think the film uses pieces of both versions. Parts of both sound familiar, and yet completely different & "new" to these ears.
I also love both versions of "The Mirrors"...Hell - I love the whole thing!
To semi-quote a line from "Amadeus"...One hears such sounds, and what can one say but - GOLDSMITH!
Thanks, Intrada.
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Does anyone else think the Shadow Theme is kind of the "dark version" of Voyager? I remember when Voyager came out that I noticed that the structure of the main theme and then the bridge of both seem to follow the same rhythms only the Shadow goes down where Voyager goes up. Am I crazy? Is there anything to this idea?
I honestly don't quite hear it yet myself, though I'm happy to take your word for it . . .
. . . if you'll agree with me that Jerry's "The Mummy" is just his "Supergirl" upside-down.
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i love this album but i can only listen to it on headphones.
when i play it through speakers the quiet parts are so quiet i have to raise the volume higher than usual to hear the detail, which then makes the loud parts obnoxiously loud and i have to turn it down again.
this is the only album i own where this occurs.
on headphones there is no issue of course, and i love the sound quality, but is this a case of dynamic range taken a notch too far? or am i not understanding something?
No, I would agree that this is an example of an album that didn't have the awful hypercompression that is still the rage in 21st century engineering. There could have been a bit more levelling out....but I'm wondering while I'm writing this if this is going to sound weird coming from a composer. Composers usually want as much dynamic range as possible.
Aw heck, it's a great cd from Intrada. I do most of my listening on Sennheisers anyway.
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Mar 7, 2018 - 10:17 AM
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Ny
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That sounds like an issue with your stereo setup. The album has great dynamic range, but if you can't hear the quiet passages at all then your setup must be lacking in fine detail, unfortunately.
It could be down to the idiosyncrasies of the equipment I'm using, but I'm left wondering because it's the only time this happens, out of thousands of albums, including many Intrada, including the Rocketeer, which i have no issues with at all.
i use a Marantz player and amp, high quality speakers, the system is not lacking in fine detail, and it's not that i can't hear the quiet passages, it's that they require a slightly higher volume, exactly like an album that has been produced at a low overall volume, which is fine, except then the loud parts come in, and the higher volume is not needed anymore, in fact it's too much.
Yes it has great dynamic range, but might it be a little too great? A little too widely spaced?
I also feel the Rocketeer mastering could be better. The quiet parts are too quiet. And frankly the whole thing could be louder. Nothing wrong with Shadow though.
Well i guess that would point to differences in equipment, because it's the opposite for me. Are you listening on a home stereo?
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Mar 7, 2018 - 11:19 AM
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jfallon
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That sounds like an issue with your stereo setup. The album has great dynamic range, but if you can't hear the quiet passages at all then your setup must be lacking in fine detail, unfortunately.
It could be down to the idiosyncrasies of the equipment I'm using, but I'm left wondering because it's the only time this happens, out of thousands of albums, including many Intrada, including the Rocketeer, which i have no issues with at all.
i use a Marantz player and amp, high quality speakers, the system is not lacking in fine detail, and it's not that i can't hear the quiet passages, it's that they require a slightly higher volume, exactly like an album that has been produced at a low overall volume, which is fine, except then the loud parts come in, and the higher volume is not needed anymore, in fact it's too much.
Yes it has great dynamic range, but might it be a little too great? A little too widely spaced?
I also feel the Rocketeer mastering could be better. The quiet parts are too quiet. And frankly the whole thing could be louder. Nothing wrong with Shadow though.
I’ve given Rocketeer spins both in my car and at home over my speakers and do think it has a lower volume then most everything else I play. I know it was already explained but wish it had the same volume as it’s original counterpart.
Well i guess that would point to differences in equipment, because it's the opposite to me. Are you listening on a home stereo?
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