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 Posted:   Jul 25, 2012 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

I saw it when I was 13 years old and it was only shown once but it had such profound effect on me, that I can remember some scenes like it was yesterday.
I've never met anyone else who has seen it and at times I thought it must have been a dream.
It was thought to be lost, another piece of film/TV history lost in the great void.

Well I received an email yesterday from the UCLA Film and Television Archives (somehow I'm on their mailing list even though I haven't lived in LA for ten years). Low and behold, there it is as part of a Rod Serling retrospective: ROD SERLING: OTHER DIMENSIONS

This Saturday at the Billy Wilder Theater 7:30pm

"A Carol for Another Christmas" (ABC, 12/23/64)

Directed by Joseph Mankiewicz

Produced as one of a series of specials supporting the United Nations, Serling’s updating of "A Christmas Carol," invoking nuclear Armageddon, presents a flint-hearted, politically isolationist tycoon (Hayden) taken on a Dickensian tour by three spirits who enlarge his worldview. A high point is Peter Sellers (Hayden’s co-star in Dr. Strangelove) as a demigod presiding over a Christmas seemingly from hell.

Producer: Joseph L. Mankiewicz. Screenwriter: Rod Serling. Cinematographer: Arthur J. Ornitz. Editor: Nathan Greene, Robert Lawrence. Cast: Sterling Hayden, Eva Marie Saint, Ben Gazzara, Britt Ekland, Pat Hingle, Peter Sellers, Robert Shaw

Music: Henry Mancini

Beta SP, b/w, 84 min.

The spookiest part is that I'm in LA on a rare visit.

I will see it again.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

So that's where "A Carol for Another Christmas" on Mancini's RCA's Christmas album came from. I've always thought that the piece was composed specifically for the album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I hope you post your experience after seeing it! Pretty amazing cast of actors.
Just fyi, there's alot of old Serling films listed in "The Collection" at the Paley Center, and CAROL seems be there (you can find it via google search, but not thru the Paley search engine).
http://www.paleycenter.org/collection/item/?q=another+world&p=4&item=T87:0502
There's some copies on Ioffer.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

My biggest question is: Did anyone else on this forum see this movie?
I feel like I'm the only person in the world that saw it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2012 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Sure, I saw it, because I'm an old coot and I was around as a young coot in the TWILIGHT ZONE era, and therefor near a TV set at the tail end of the TZ era when ABC, with much ballyhoo, broadcast the world premiere of this prestigious production. I vaguely recall that it was the first film in a projected series of films of a similarly serious-minded nature sponsored by the United Nations or something like that. I wish I could say that my memories of the show are as vivid as yours, but I recall only that I was as disappointed as the reviewer for the New York Herald Tribune who felt that a lot of talent and good intentions had managed to produce an unimpressive film. The only scene I recall is the last , where the Scrooge prototype sits down to Christmas dinner with the family of his negro (as they were called in those days) house servant.

Maybe I was too young (or stupid or callow or something) to appreciate it at the time, and maybe the Herald Tribune and I missed the boat. I'll be very interested to read your report on the UCLA screening. I hope it's going to be as good as you remember it was.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2012 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Valiant65   (Member)

A Christmas gift for everybody is coming up on TCM.

This ultra rare Rod Serling special is getting its first TV showing in 48 years.

December 16th at 8 p.m. and Dec.22nd at 4:15 p.m.

Henry Mancini scores this 90 minute special that aired only once on Dec. 28th, 1964.

Could a DVD release be available for 2013?

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Valiant65   (Member)

This is a Christmas bump ........for those who may have missed the notice.

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Thanks!

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

I hope they have a better copy than the tape (it looked like a VHS) that The UCLA Television and Film Archives showed.
Nevertheless, it was a real treat. A throw back to another time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2012 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

I hope they have a better copy than the tape (it looked like a VHS) that The UCLA Television and Film Archives showed.

Good heavens, this is gorgeous! Those who DVRd - good for you. If you're on the west coast, do it. It plays again next Saturday, for those missing it. So far it's pure Serling, not to be missed. back I go!

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2012 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

The "Christmas Future" portion of this was in many ways a precursor of Patrick McGoohan's "The Prisoner" television series.

So that's where "A Carol for Another Christmas" on Mancini's RCA's Christmas album came from. I've always thought that the piece was composed specifically for the album.

Well my original instincts were, in fact, correct. The track "A Carol for Another Christmas" was composed specifically for Mancini's RCA's Christmas album. Mancini must have simply liked the title. The melody never appeared in the show; Mancini's score was quite a dark score, and I was half expecting the hopeful tune to appear at the end of the film. It didn't, and the main and end titles consisted of nothing but traditional carols. If Mancini composed it for the TV special, it wasn't used.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2012 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

I'd expected that tune to show up at the end as well, but I did admire the use of the carol playing on the radio. For such a bold, talkative film, it was a surprisingly understated ending. Nicely played.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2012 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Stumbled into Peter Sellers's rant tonight. What on earth was going on here? Seemed like a super-sized Twilight Zone episode. And that's pretty much what it turned out to be. Fascinating.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2012 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I had the same thought. There was one TZ episode, "The Obsolete Man," with Fritz Weaver in it that felt like experimental theater, with stark, simplified settings, stylized crowd behavior -- and of course an IMPORTANT POLITICAL MESSAGE.

I don't think this "update" of the Dickens tale is any threat to any of the others for greatness (let's face it -- it isn't really much about the spirit of Christmas, despite the lip service paid it in some of the dialogue), but as a fascinating TV curio, and a "missing link" in the career chronologies of Serling and Mankiewicz, it's well worth a look.

Peter Sellers turns up in a showy American-southerner-character role, which unites him for the first time with Hayden, whom he'd later encounter again in Kubrick's "Strangelove."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

I hope they have a better copy than the tape (it looked like a VHS) that The UCLA Television and Film Archives showed.

Good heavens, this is gorgeous! Those who DVRd - good for you. If you're on the west coast, do it. It plays again next Saturday, for those missing it. So far it's pure Serling, not to be missed. back I go!


Was it in good video/audio quality?

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

Was it in good video/audio quality?

So far I just watched the opening and closing credits, but it looked and sounded just fine.

However, even though Robert Osborne mentioned Mancini in his opening, I didn't see any scoring credit either in the opening credits or at the end, even though the end titles listed several other music-related credits.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2012 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I was in a great, bizarre little record/CD/video store in Chicago today (Laurie's Planet of Sound), and right there in their Christmas section, a DVD of A CAROL FOR ANOTHER CHRISTMAS. It's a DVD-R, probably churned out in someone's basement, but hey, it was only about $10.00. An interesting show to say the least.

In response to a couple of earlier posts, I actually found Peter Sellers' acting choices quite riveting, although a tad bizarre (I also found Steve Lawrence's Ghost of Christmas Past to be quite absorbing). And, the print I have has a big "Music by Henry Mancini" credit right in the opening titles, after the cast list and just before Rod Serling's credit.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2012 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I enjoyed this tremendously. Great photography (Arthur Ornitz), Mancini score, always-brilliant Serling dialogue and mostly great performances. I wasn't sure about Sterling Hayden as Grudge. As an actor, he's basically a bellower with layers. But he was obviously a fine contrast to those around him. Steve Lawrence was great and probably had the best monologues.

While the 35mm print used was excellent, I did think they could have cleaned off some of the grease pencil markings at the reel-ends.

A real treat.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2012 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Sterling Hayden as Grudge. As an actor, he's basically a bellower with layers.
lol, how true.
Anyone make a good dvd recording they might want to share (trade copies)?

 
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