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 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=85605&forumID=7&archive=0

So it looks like John Williams MIGHT have done arrangements for Mahalia Jackson on the above recording. And he worked with her on "Great Songs of Love and Faith", but again, I don't know if he provided actual arrangements or just conducted.

I HAVE found that he did 4 arrangements for the Mel Torme album "Sunday in New York" back around 1962.

http://www.amazon.com/Sings-Sunday-New-York-Torme/dp/B000C8VDGK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1344280307&sr=8-3&keywords=mel+torme+songs+of+new+york


Did he do any non-film arrangements for vocalists (in the manner of Nelson Riddle, Marty Paich, et. al.) besides the 3 discs mentioned above?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Does his album with Frankie Laine Hell Bent For Leather qualify?

See: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hell-Bent-Leather-Frankie-Laine/dp/B006GP3RW6/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1344281402&sr=1-2

I've had the vinyl LP for many years but have yet to replace it with a CD copy (and the one shown above is not for me as it's a direct transfer from vinyl). The US release (coupled with another FL album) always appears too expensive.

The orchestrations are fun if a little heavy-handed in places, from memory.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Yes it iS the same John Williams, who under contract to Columbia Records at the time, and.one of the many film composers who arranged and backed vocalists (e.g., Victor Young, Jerry Fielding, Frank DeVol, David Rose, John Barry).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Here's another Williams conducted and, I believe, arranged.....







Circa 1958, Williams had some sort of contract with Tops/Mayfair Records, a cheap $1.98 lp label.

Here are a few of the recordings I've been able to track down from that period. Williams was certainly conducting, and probably arranging, too.

L-1635/9635-S.....JOHNNY DESMOND SWINGS (1958) with the John T. Williams Orchestra
(Johnny Desmond was a popular band singer and recording artist in the 1940s/1950s era.)



L-1614.....SOUTH PACIFIC (1958).....The Dual Pianos of John T. Williams and Walter Ruick
(Walter Ruick was a composer, pianist, arranger born in the late 1800s. I suspect he was related (perhaps a brother?) to Melville Ruick, the father, with his actress-wife Lurene Tuttle, of actress Barbara Ruick, who was Williams' wife. So I'd guess that Walter Ruick was one of Willams' extended family members.)



L-1632/9632-S.....BIG HITS FROM COLUMBIA PICTURES (1958)
.....Hollywood Grand Studio Orchestra - music arranged and conducted by John T. Williams



L-1641/9641-S.....GERSHWIN/PORGY AND BESS: Featuring Great Broadway Stars (1958)
.....Hollywood Grand Studio Orchestra, music arranged and conducted by John T. Williams
.....(featuring well-known movie-dubber voices) Bill Reeve, Norma Zimmer, Bill Lee, Marni Nixon.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   LTPmusic   (Member)

Believe he wrote under the name Johnny Williams originally and played keyboard on many recordings. His early style was more big band-jazz orientated. Ck. out the second half of the FSM p.o.p. CHECKMATE release. Also think he's listed as credit on "Gilligan's Isle."

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Does his album with Frankie Laine Hell Bent For Leather qualify?

See: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hell-Bent-Leather-Frankie-Laine/dp/B006GP3RW6/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1344281402&sr=1-2

I've had the vinyl LP for many years but have yet to replace it with a CD copy (and the one shown above is not for me as it's a direct transfer from vinyl). The US release (coupled with another FL album) always appears too expensive.

The orchestrations are fun if a little heavy-handed in places, from memory.

Mitch


Interesting. I'll have to look for samples.

The cover shows him as conductor. Do the credits show him as arranger as well?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, he arranged lots and lots of stuff for vocalists and instrumentalists alike back in the late 50's and onwards. Some of them have been mentioned already. There are several more. I'll mention a few once I get back from my deserted island here in Denmark.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

...

Interesting. I'll have to look for samples.

The cover shows him as conductor. Do the credits show him as arranger as well?


No, just as conductor - recording released 1961.

The rear sleeve notes describe the songs as being new recordings (I can vouch for that re: Do Not Forsake Me) but the only mention of Johnny Williams is as conductor (of orchestra and chorus).

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

...

Interesting. I'll have to look for samples.

The cover shows him as conductor. Do the credits show him as arranger as well?


No, just as conductor - recording released 1961.

The rear sleeve notes describe the songs as being new recordings (I can vouch for that re: Do Not Forsake Me) but the only mention of Johnny Williams is as conductor (of orchestra and chorus).

Mitch


In these cases I usually guess he did the arranging, until I hear the recording (assuming I know the arranger's style, which in this case I do not).

Thanks, Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Believe he wrote under the name Johnny Williams originally and played keyboard on many recordings. His early style was more big band-jazz orientated. Ck. out the second half of the FSM p.o.p. CHECKMATE release. Also think he's listed as credit on "Gilligan's Isle."

The same applied to "Lost In Space" and he was credited as "Johnny" Williams up until "Daddy's Gone A Hunting".

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2012 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

A recent trip to an LP store had me finding out that he arranged & conducted Vic Damone's "Young and Lively" album:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/that-towering-feeling!-young-and-lively-mw0000424324

The samples above make me think I'd like to own it.



 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2013 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

I just bought an LP he did with Sonny King, for whom Williams provided 8 arrangements.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2013 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I wasn't aware of that one. Thanks for the heads-up.

 
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