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 Posted:   Jan 9, 2015 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The song itself. The actual film sequence is pretty good, and when it was put up on YouTube with McCarthy's Archer theme it didn't produce any disgust in me.

But after years of having majestic orchestral themes before Star Trek (both McCarthy's DS9 theme and of course Goldsmith's Voyager theme were just fantastic) it was just horrible to me whenever that annoying pop song started up, and especially when the guitars come in for the refrain, UGH!

Sorry -- just my opinion.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2015 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


LOL! Over the song itself or what? I mean I don't like the song, and miss an orchestral main theme, but I hardly feel disgust!


I can't speak for Yavar, but I personally found that song to be the equivalent of 7th Heaven muzak performed by Bryan Adams cousin's neighbor's best friend, so cringeworthy that as I was listening to it I knew Star Trek was dead, and 4 seasons later I was proven right. Of course that was before Mr. Lens Flare and Giacchino reminded me what a Star Trek theme was suppose to sound like.

And yet for some reason I did like Jeff Buckley's theme song for "The Dead Zone", a show that was on at the same time and had a lot of Star Trek writers on it, go figure. wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2015 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


LOL! Over the song itself or what? I mean I don't like the song, and miss an orchestral main theme, but I hardly feel disgust!


I can't speak for Yavar, but I personally found that song to be the equivalent of 7th Heaven muzak performed by Bryan Adams cousin's neighbor's best friend, so cringeworthy that as I was listening to it I knew Star Trek was dead, and 4 seasons later I was proven right. Of course that was before Mr. Lens Flare and Giacchino reminded me what a Star Trek theme was suppose to sound like.

And yet for some reason I did like Jeff Buckley's theme song for "The Dead Zone", a show that was on at the same time and had a lot of Star Trek writers on it, go figure. wink


Like I said, I didn't like the song. It was annoying as hell, but I never felt disgusted. I was certainly hoping for something as breathtaking as JG's theme for Voyager. Guess they figured they needed a rock song to attract a new younger audience. But as we know this was about the time they put their middle finger up at the actual fan base.

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2015 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

When I first heard it over a Star Trek main title I felt physical revulsion.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2015 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Like I said, I didn't like the song. It was annoying as hell, but I never felt disgusted. I was certainly hoping for something as breathtaking as JG's theme for Voyager. Guess they figured they needed a rock song to attract a new younger audience. But as we know this was about the time they put their middle finger up at the actual fan base.

I'll say it: I don't think the instinct to switch things up was a bad one. This was the fifth "Star Trek" series (and there had been, what, nine movies by then?). Creatively, it is never a bad idea to say "How can we approach this differently?" Franchise fatigue had definitely set in, and how could it not after hundreds and hundreds of episodes? The problem Paramount had was that they could not create new fans. Old fans would lose interest, but nobody new was thinking "I should give this Star Trek thing a try."

The problem was, the show was by-and-large the same old thing -- sometimes done well, sometimes not so well -- so it failed to be the jolt of energy needed to bring in new fans. As for the song… well, I think it was a good idea only in theory. In practice, it was a watered-down pop ballad that could never convince any new viewer that this show was somehow "cool." And it made me cringe. (But not feel physically revulsed!)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Not sure how this turned into a Star Trek threadsmile However looking forward to the CD release of the score from "The Newsroom". Hoping it will have highlights from all three seasons.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Not sure how this turned into a Star Trek threadsmile However looking forward to the CD release of the score from "The Newsroom". Hoping it will have highlights from all three seasons.

I guess the newsroom headquarters must share a slight resemblance to the bridge of the enterprise wink but you are correct, the news of this release is great. I'm still going throuh season 3, didn't get round to it yet and also felt some trepidation with it being the last, I hate to see a good show end.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Not sure how this turned into a Star Trek threadsmile However looking forward to the CD release of the score from "The Newsroom". Hoping it will have highlights from all three seasons.

I guess the newsroom headquarters must share a slight resemblance to the bridge of the enterprise wink but you are correct, the news of this release is great. I'm still going throuh season 3, didn't get round to it yet and also felt some trepidation with it being the last, I hate to see a good show end.


Everything devolves (said lovingly) into a nerdy Trek fest.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2015 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

The Varese cd has been pushed back to March 31st, according to Amazon. Still no sign of a trackless.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2015 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

Some sites are listing this as a two disc release. I wonder how comprehensive it will be.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2015 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Like I said, I didn't like the song. It was annoying as hell, but I never felt disgusted. I was certainly hoping for something as breathtaking as JG's theme for Voyager. Guess they figured they needed a rock song to attract a new younger audience. But as we know this was about the time they put their middle finger up at the actual fan base.

I'll say it: I don't think the instinct to switch things up was a bad one. This was the fifth "Star Trek" series (and there had been, what, nine movies by then?). Creatively, it is never a bad idea to say "How can we approach this differently?" Franchise fatigue had definitely set in, and how could it not after hundreds and hundreds of episodes? The problem Paramount had was that they could not create new fans. Old fans would lose interest, but nobody new was thinking "I should give this Star Trek thing a try."

The problem was, the show was by-and-large the same old thing -- sometimes done well, sometimes not so well -- so it failed to be the jolt of energy needed to bring in new fans. As for the song… well, I think it was a good idea only in theory. In practice, it was a watered-down pop ballad that could never convince any new viewer that this show was somehow "cool." And it made me cringe. (But not feel physically revulsed!)


I always loved that Enterprise opening title sequence, and I grew to have a reluctant fondness for the song, but it wasn't even that they used a song instead of a traditional Courage/Goldsmith-style theme that still annoys me -- it was that they used a Diane Warren song that had already been written for, recorded for and used in, of all things, Patch Adams (ugh!), and that they hired another singer (Russell Watson) to emulate the style of Rod Stewart who sang it for the movie

 
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