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 Posted:   Jul 6, 2002 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Herrmann's cue The Marker from 12-Mile Reef became more synonymous as the rocket-pack music in Lost in Space, than the film it was composed for!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I think one of the most hilarious examples of what we're discussing here involves Goldsmith...
Back in the '80's(Remember THEM!?), I would religiously watch SCTV. John Candy would do this spoof about 3-D movies and everytime he did his"3-D effect" by shoving an object towards and away from the camera, they would play this music. It always made me laugh, and I assumed it was from some ancient sc-fi movie or TV show.
Flash forward to last year. My brother bought me that Twlight Zone 4-disc set from Silva. I was listening to the Goldsmith disc and there was that music!!! I said to myself, "SHIT!!!! I didn't know goldsmith wrote THAT!?" I can't remember which episode he wrote it for, but what a hoot that was!

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Waxman's "Prince Valiant" was tracked in the Time Tunnel episode "Robin Hood".
"Land Of The Giants" used Russell Garcia's "Fantastica" album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

I think one of the most hilarious examples of what we're discussing here involves Goldsmith...
Back in the '80's(Remember THEM!?), I would religiously watch SCTV. John Candy would do this spoof about 3-D movies and everytime he did his"3-D effect" by shoving an object towards and away from the camera, they would play this music. It always made me laugh, and I assumed it was from some ancient sc-fi movie or TV show.
Flash forward to last year. My brother bought me that Twlight Zone 4-disc set from Silva. I was listening to the Goldsmith disc and there was that music!!! I said to myself, "SHIT!!!! I didn't know goldsmith wrote THAT!?" I can't remember which episode he wrote it for, but what a hoot that was!


NERVOUS MAN IN A FOUR DOLLAR ROOM is the episode that Goldsmith composed the "3D" music.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Waxman's "Prince Valiant" was tracked in the Time Tunnel episode "Robin Hood".
"Land Of The Giants" used Russell Garcia's "Fantastica" album.


Highly doubtful since they never owned that recording or the publishing.

I suspect that this might be more a case of Richard LaSalle paying "Homage" to Mr. Garcia.

What episodes did this music appear in anyway?


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)



Wasn't the theme to "The Adventures of Superman" composed by Rozsa as well, though credited to Leon Klatzkin?


Quotation from the Rozsa Forum:
Recently I asked my old friend Herman Stein, the co-composer of many classic Universal sci-fi and monster movies of the "Fabulous Fifties" if he knew anything about this mystery. He replied in typical candor, "No, but I'll call my lawyer and get back to you!" Then he added, "Seriously, Don, I've always admired that theme music for its brilliance - the arpeggios and harp glissandos - personally, I wasn't in on Chudnow's sweatshop operation for canned TV music, thank God, but I knew a few of my colleagues who were. My best guess is Hersh Gilbert, but you know Rozsa could've ghosted it - what the hey, he might have done it to finance a holiday in Bermuda or something. I'll tell you something that's as true now as it was then - we were all doing things for work - to get paid. Our feeling was that if it was good it would sell. Our themes and cues were written to sell the product, in this case, a film or TV show. The Superman theme has always sold that show. The music stands out in front of the picture on the little black & white box. I sure wish I'd written it. And here's another thing - back in those days, we all felt, 'In 50 years, who's gonna care?' Or even 10. Ah, Klatzkin - I don't believe he could have written it. My best guess is a composer from Europe with a solid classical education." (Notes from a phone conversation)
Cheers, Don "Dejael"

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2002 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)



Highly doubtful since they never owned that recording or the publishing.

I suspect that this might be more a case of Richard LaSalle paying "Homage" to Mr. Garcia.

Ford A. Thaxton


LaSalle also "used" Goldsmith's "Apes" score in "City Beneath the Sea" and the Buck Rogers episode "Unchained Women".
But I really like some of his music. He wrote a nice Main Title music for the B-movie "Time Travelers" (1964) which contains a howling low brass glissando similar to the one Alexander Courage wrote for the Star Trek episode "The Man Trap". Some enjoyable music by LaSalle was released by GNP on their Lost in Space Vol. 3 album.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2004 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   cine50   (Member)



Quotation from the Rozsa Forum:
Recently I asked my old friend Herman Stein, the co-composer of many classic Universal sci-fi and monster movies of the "Fabulous Fifties" if he knew anything about this mystery. He replied in typical candor, "No, but I'll call my lawyer and get back to you!" Then he added, "Seriously, Don, I've always admired that theme music for its brilliance - the arpeggios and harp glissandos - personally, I wasn't in on Chudnow's sweatshop operation for canned TV music, thank God, but I knew a few of my colleagues who were. My best guess is Hersh Gilbert, but you know Rozsa could've ghosted it - what the hey, he might have done it to finance a holiday in Bermuda or something. I'll tell you something that's as true now as it was then - we were all doing things for work - to get paid. Our feeling was that if it was good it would sell. Our themes and cues were written to sell the product, in this case, a film or TV show. The Superman theme has always sold that show. The music stands out in front of the picture on the little black & white box. I sure wish I'd written it. And here's another thing - back in those days, we all felt, 'In 50 years, who's gonna care?' Or even 10. Ah, Klatzkin - I don't believe he could have written it. My best guess is a composer from Europe with a solid classical education." (Notes from a phone conversation)
Cheers, Don "Dejael"



I just found your posting of a couple of years ago while browsing around the site. After reading your coments about who may have composed the original 1950s Superman theme, I was wondering why these various themes and marches at their different tempos from the first season's episodes were not included in Volume 1 of the Adventures of Superman CD. Any ideas? Do you think these no longer exist? Cheers.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2004 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Wasn´t John Williams´Midway theme reused in Zimmer´s Pearl Harbor.

The imdb lists also Robert O. Ragland as co-composer. I suspect this is also library or stock music (?)

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2004 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

As long as Castile is going to mention Universal's recycling of Waxman's BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, then we must complete the picture by hopping from the thirties to the forties and mentioning the studio's recycling of themes by Salter and Skinner in their horror and mystery movies. As Hans told me in my CINEFANTASTIQUE interview back in the 70's, whenever there wasn't time or budget for an original score, he'd be asked to use library tracks -- a process the head of the music department called "Salterizing." For horror, especially, the main sources were SON OF FRANKENSTEIN (Skinner), THE WOLF MAN (Salter, Skinner, C. Previn), THE GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN (Salter) and FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN (mostly Salter). As late as CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, Universal was tracking a snippet from GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN into the mix.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2004 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Some of Goldsmith's Twilight Zone t.v. scores turned up on Saturday Night Live during a Sprockets sketch where Dieter meets Madonna in a dream.

Also, didn't part of Brian May's Roadwarrior score turn up in Missing in Action?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2015 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

One of the weirdest experiences of the sort was to hear Bernard Herrmann’s main title music for The Day the Earth Stood Still re-used over the main credits of The Fiend Who Walked The West, a Gordon Douglas remake of "Kiss of Death" in the Western genre. I think this was due to a Hollywood musicians strike at the time.


Starting at 1'10, one of the weirdest esperiences indeed !





Very fun movie, by the way !

 
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