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 Posted:   Sep 16, 2014 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I read with avid interest the post from John Morgan that you have the conductor's score to this film. Do the cues have titles? If so, would you be willing to share them? I'm trying to write about this score for a book a friend is writing and would like to refer to cues by their titles if possible. Thanks to anyone who can help me.

Here are the cue titles, all by Roemheld (except the Chopin)
1. Main Title
2. Prologue
3. Jail
4. Dracula's Daughter
5. Cremation
6. Street Scene
7. Nocturne #2, Op. 27 (Chopin)
8. After The Piano Solo (A&B)
9. Sandor
10. Autopsy
11. Scotch Hunt
12. Gypsy Waltz
13. The Tie
14. Countess’ Apartment (Studio)
15. Lili
16. Countess' Studio
17. Attack on Lili
18. The Tie (#2)
19. Two Women
20. Lili's Death
21. Bell, The
22. This is the Place
23. Montage
24. Stop Him
25. Croydon Airport
26. Village Festival
27. Transylvania
28. End Title
29. End Cast

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2014 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I read with avid interest the post from John Morgan that you have the conductor's score to this film. Do the cues have titles? If so, would you be willing to share them? I'm trying to write about this score for a book a friend is writing and would like to refer to cues by their titles if possible. Thanks to anyone who can help me.

Here are the cue titles, all by Roemheld (except the Chopin)
1. Main Title
2. Prologue
3. Jail
4. Dracula's Daughter
5. Cremation
6. Street Scene
7. Nocturne #2, Op. 27 (Chopin)
8. After The Piano Solo (A&B)
9. Sandor
10. Autopsy
11. Scotch Hunt
12. Gypsy Waltz
13. The Tie
14. Countess’ Apartment (Studio)
15. Lili
16. Countess' Studio
17. Attack on Lili
18. The Tie (#2)
19. Two Women
20. Lili's Death
21. Bell, The
22. This is the Place
23. Montage
24. Stop Him
25. Croydon Airport
26. Village Festival
27. Transylvania
28. End Title
29. End Cast




Man, what a great CD this would make. Oh well ............

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I did a transcription/mockup of "The Cremation" by ear a year ago. Lots of fun! Waiting for the day we can get a beautiful re-recording of the whole score. Maybe a double-bill with Werewolf of London or something.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22574835/Draculas_Daughter.wav

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Mike Lee   (Member)

Waxmanman35 and PFK, thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it and am very glad to have wandered at last to this board.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Mike Lee   (Member)

Mike H, I enjoyed your beautiful reconstruction of "The Cremation" very much. Thanks for creating it. That might be the best musical moment capturing the melancholy of monstrous regret ever written for a horror film. Wonderful stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Mike Lee   (Member)

Waxmanman35, do you by chance own the conductor's score to the prologue? It opens with a haunting cello solo. I've lifted it by ear, but wonder what key the original is in. Sometimes these old films can sound in a slightly different key than notated.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

Mike H, I enjoyed your beautiful reconstruction of "The Cremation" very much. Thanks for creating it. That might be the best musical moment capturing the melancholy of monstrous regret ever written for a horror film. Wonderful stuff.

Thank you for your kind words! It is indeed one of the most beautiful and haunting cues I've ever heard. If ever I'm in the position of financing a Morgan/Stromberg re-recording, this score is at the top of my list!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

does anyone know for sure the original tracks dont exist? could be in a library somewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I would love to see Dracula's Daughter, Werewolf of London and The Black Cat (1934) newly recorded. If I could only win the lottery .........

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I would love to see Dracula's Daughter, Werewolf of London and The Black Cat (1934) newly recorded. If I could only win the lottery .........

Haha absolutely! I've always wanted Son of Dracula as well but I'm wondering if there's enough unrecorded material to justify an album. A lot of the cues were stock re-workings of scores that have already been re-recorded. The main title and several cues were re-recorded by our dear friends and can be found in their "Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror" album. Off the top of my head, the cue when Kay leaves to go see Alucard in the swamp as well as the brass chorale "crucifix" motif are original cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

Waxmanman35, do you by chance own the conductor's score to the prologue? It opens with a haunting cello solo. I've lifted it by ear, but wonder what key the original is in. Sometimes these old films can sound in a slightly different key than notated.

The conductor book that survives is not the original, but a simplified one that was made for copyright purposes a year after the film's release. The first ten measures of the The Prologue you cited is E minor.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Mike Lee   (Member)

E minor is just how it sounds on the DVD (assuming my piano is in tune). Thanks for that very much.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2014 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Mike Lee   (Member)

Looking more closely at the cue sheet, I wonder why the Chopin work is identified as op. 27, no. 2 when the F# Major Nocturne is Op. 15, no. 2. At least I think it is. Any thoughts on what happened?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2014 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

The beautiful finale sequence in SON OF DRACULA derives from the climactic scene of THE INVISIBLE MAN RETURNS, which of course has also been recorded by John and Bill. Still, a recording of the SON OF DRACULA version, with the added violin obligato, would be worth the price of admission to a re-recording. Not counting the entirety of ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN, the three highlights from Universal monster music which I feel most cry out for presence on a CD are that SON OF DRACULA finale, the funereal "Child Victim" from FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN and, from the same film, "Faro-La, Faro-Li."

(And yes, I know about the two versions of the song on a couple of compilation albums, but neither is in the original orchestration, nor with a properly operatic vocal worthy of Adia Kuznetzof.)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2014 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

Looking more closely at the cue sheet, I wonder why the Chopin work is identified as op. 27, no. 2 when the F# Major Nocturne is Op. 15, no. 2. At least I think it is. Any thoughts on what happened?

My typo. Good catch.

 
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