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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I posted this over on non-film score discussion, but thought I'd share here, too.

Amazon announced today AutoRip. http://amzn.to/TNaJf0

"What would you say if you bought music CDs from a company 15 years ago...and then 15 years later that company licensed the rights from the record companies to give you the MP3 versions of those CDs...and then to top it off, did that for you automatically and for free? Well...we call it Amazon AutoRip and it’s available starting today."

I've seen a bunch of stuff show up now in my Amazon Cloud Drive, including some Doctor Who cds from Silva Screen and the ST:TMP 20th anniversary set and a bunch of Bond soundtracks...

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Neat idea. They say that gifts do not count, but more than a few of the albums included in the AutoRip section of the cloud player were gifts. Let's just say I now have the complete recordings of New Kids On The Block, free and available to download at any time.

I think you would have attracted more attention if you would have just titled this "SHiTunes" or whatever.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

I was coming over to post about this. Its a very interesting idea, definitely a win for the consumer though yes its mainly them just trying to sell their player service smile

I'm curious to see what of my past purchases will show up, need to find my UK credit card first.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

"What would you say if you bought music CDs from a company 15 years ago...and then 15 years later that company licensed the rights from the record companies to give you the MP3 versions of those CDs...and then to top it off, did that for you automatically and for free?

I'd say "thanks, but no thanks. I don't do MP3 any more. This is 2013, dude. Lossless FTW!" wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I'd say "thanks, but no thanks. I don't do MP3 any more. This is 2013, dude. Lossless FTW!" wink


What he said.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

What I like about it is the idea of streaming stuff I already own when i'm not at home. Don't have to load up the ipad with mp3s but can still hear some of my music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

I'm another lossless preferrer but that said being able to have access to all the music you have is a damn useful service and 256kbps is more than good enough as an option.

At present I am using Mediatap/Audiotap (iOS) to stream the odd album from my home server to my iPhone & iPad (either out and about, or at home). It works _much_ better than Apple's own Home Sharing (much much faster loading of library 10 seconds vs 3 minutes)

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Um if I own the CD then why don't I just rip it myself in the format of choice? I suppose its cool if I order the CD but get a chance to listen to it before it arrives in the mail.


UPDATE: Unfortunetly no CD I've purchased from Amazon appears in my Cloud Drive.

UPDATE 2: About 30 mins after the last update 30 albums were imported into my Cloud....why do I need these again?


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

So where does that leave the preachers who said making a copy but selling the original is illegal?
Amazon will be providing free copies of CDs to buyers who might have sold or traded the original CDs years ago. The fact is, Amazon is providing copies irrespective of whether the buyer still owns the original CD or not. So the old argument about copying and selling an original CD being illegal is now meaningless.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I've never used my Cloud Drive but have downloaded some past mp3 purchases from my Cloud Player. Checking my Cloud Drive today, for the first time, it is empty. Nothing new in my Cloud Player either.

I guess I've not bought any Auto-Rip CDs over the years.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

So where does that leave the preachers who said making a copy but selling the original is illegal?
Amazon will be providing free copies of CDs to buyers who might have sold or traded the original CDs years ago. The fact is, Amazon is providing copies irrespective of whether the buyer still owns the original CD or not. So the old argument about copying and selling an original CD being illegal is now meaningless.


This is what happened with me today, and I love it (obviously).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   markbagby   (Member)

I've never used my Cloud Drive but have downloaded some past mp3 purchases from my Cloud Player. Checking my Cloud Drive today, for the first time, it is empty. Nothing new in my Cloud Player either.

I guess I've not bought any Auto-Rip CDs over the years.


Not necessarily. Was just checking mine and at the top of the page was this:

"AutoRip update: due to high demand, we are experiencing delays. We will email you when we have added your music."

So...keep checking, I guess, or maybe we'll get email notices as it says.

EDIT: inf act, just got my email indicating the six CDs that qualify from Amazon are now available. Cool.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

So where does that leave the preachers who said making a copy but selling the original is illegal?
Amazon will be providing free copies of CDs to buyers who might have sold or traded the original CDs years ago. The fact is, Amazon is providing copies irrespective of whether the buyer still owns the original CD or not. So the old argument about copying and selling an original CD being illegal is now meaningless.



Ok. So who wants my Return to Oz CD? $30. Just let me finish ripping and tagging it. You can have the disc, enjoy it, while I still enjoy the disc too because, after all, it's perfectly ok.

Ok so I guess it's OOP so it's not a big deal...

Fine. Maybe I'll buy La-La Land's Batman TAS Vol. 2, rip it all, and give someone a nice $15 discount on buying it from me. We all win right -- I get to enjoy music for cheap, someone else gets a discount, and....La-La Land gets the profit from one set sold. Hmmm, something wrong there, isn't there?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Fine. Maybe I'll buy La-La Land's Batman TAS Vol. 2, rip it all, and give someone a nice $15 discount on buying it from me. We all win right -- I get to enjoy music for cheap, someone else gets a discount, and....La-La Land gets the profit from one set sold. Hmmm, something wrong there, isn't there?

For cheap? To get an average single CD with shipping from LLL is $25. Sell it to someone at the $15 discount you mention and both parties, the seller and the second buyer, will still have spent more ($10 each) on the music than it would cost to get it as an $8.99 Amazon download.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Apparently none of the CD's I've bought are on AutoRip. Also, it seems to be missing some mp3 files I bought (maybe it only includes downloads you bought after they started the Cloud service)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Apparently none of the CD's I've bought are on AutoRip. Also, it seems to be missing some mp3 files I bought (maybe it only includes downloads you bought after they started the Cloud service)

On the CD side of things, it'll be Amazon's own sales that qualify, I assume, not CDs you've bought from their third-party sellers.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

I just hope it doesn't take as long for this to make it to Amazon Canada/UK as it did for Amazon Prime.... It's certainly going to be interesting over the next few years with Amazon/Google/Apple one upping each other.

Now if SAE do this, that would be awesome !

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Apparently none of the CD's I've bought are on AutoRip. Also, it seems to be missing some mp3 files I bought (maybe it only includes downloads you bought after they started the Cloud service)

On the CD side of things, it'll be Amazon's own sales that qualify, I assume, not CDs you've bought from their third-party sellers.


Of course. I've bought plenty of CD's from Amazon, but so far the only things on my Cloud are a handful of MP3 purchases.

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

It added 72 CD's to my amazon cloud this evening. Very cool!

 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2013 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Apparently none of the CD's I've bought are on AutoRip. Also, it seems to be missing some mp3 files I bought (maybe it only includes downloads you bought after they started the Cloud service)

On the CD side of things, it'll be Amazon's own sales that qualify, I assume, not CDs you've bought from their third-party sellers.


Of course. I've bought plenty of CD's from Amazon, but so far the only things on my Cloud are a handful of MP3 purchases.


This is my case. 99% of my Amazon purchases are used CDs from third party venders. I have purchased some MP3's directly from Amazon though.

I didn't even know I had a "Cloud Drive". I thought it was something you had to set up. My "Cloud Drive" is empty.

 
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