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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: OUTLAND: Hyams, Connery, Sternhagen & Goldsmith!     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jan 13, 2013 - 11:56 PM     By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member) I just now revisited an old favorite from 1981: OUTLAND. Peter Hyams wrote and directed this space thriller. He wisely chose Mr. Goldsmith for the music. Sean Connery and Peter Boyle are the adversaries. My very favorite performance in this film was given by an amazing actress named Frances Sternhagen. Prior to this film, I had only seen her in toothpaste commercials! When I did some research online, I discovered an incredible career! What an amazing performance she gave in this film, and what an amazing career she has had! I LOVE YOU, FRANCES STERNHAGEN!    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 12:50 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I think Sternhagen is fab. She would have made an excellent Dr. Pulaski for ST-TNG's 2nd season. But maybe she would have thought it was typecasting!    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 12:55 AM     By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member) I'm with you, Octoberman! Frances could do no wrong!    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 5:21 AM     By:   GreatGonzo   (Member) My very favorite performance in this film was given by an amazing actress named Frances Sternhagen. Prior to this film, I had only seen her in toothpaste commercials! What, never as Cliffy's mom on CHEERS??    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 7:04 AM     By:   The Mutant   (Member) Awesome flick. One of my favorite blurays.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 7:39 AM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) Frances Sternhagen also had great supporting roles in the Stephen King adaptations Misery and The Mist. Still alive, last I heard...she'd be over ninety, now.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:11 AM     By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member) One of my favs of all time. Timeless in all regards and it looks tremendous on blu!    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:18 AM     By:   Montana Dave   (Member) Sternhagen is the best thing in the film. But, let's not forget James B. Sikking (spelling?) who was also great but had an unfortunate exit in the film. Francis Sternhagen I was fortunate enough to see in an off-Broadway play at The Vineyard Theatre off of Union Square in NYC. For the life of me I cannot recall it's name, but it was around 2000 or afterwards.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:32 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Oh, how I love me some dystopian science fiction! Outland is such an "ugly" movie. Zero glamour or feel good Star Trek triumph of the "goodness" of mankind or the space opera pap of the dreckful Star Wars. Curse those all to Hell. I could easily see Outland belonging to the ALIEN continuity with the power of corporations and drudgery of labor. I don't know when the dystopian science fiction sub genre came about but it is positively refreshing after the Star Wars/Star Trek hegemony. It's always a product of its own time, but Outland came out when, 1981? A strange placement in a post-Lucas world. I don't know about Outland's source material--I'm sure it will be discussed here--but I love its sheer ugliness. High Noon in space, indeed.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:44 AM     By:   dragon53   (Member) I got OUTLAND on Blu-ray for Christmas---Peter Hyams' commentary is worth the listen.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 3:25 PM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) I loved all of Peter Hyams' work up to and including Narrow Margin. Capricorn One for example is just cracking entertainment. And I even love Hanover Street, a really old fashioned romance which most people seem to hate for some reason. Even 2010 is a pretty solid SF movie. But I agree, Outland is a great film with a fabulousGoldsmith score. I haven't seen the movie in years - must pick up a copy on Blu.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 5:56 PM     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member) I loved Sternhagen in this: almost the best part, really. I remembered her from something on TV in the 70's, but I can't find a credit from that period that fits in my memory.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 5:59 PM     By:   BobJ   (Member) Wow, this is so awesome. I had no idea so many people here love this movie. In the past all I ever heard from people was how underwelming the film was for them. But not for me, I love it. Aces everyone.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 6:19 PM     By:   Adam.   (Member) The film is a crowd pleaser. I saw it at the Springfield Mall theater in Va. when it came out. At the end when O'Neil punches Sheppard in triumph, the whole theater audience cheered and applauded. Interesting that the plot involves workers taking performance enhancing drugs to make bigger profits for the company. Sound familiar in today's world?    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:17 PM     By:   Michael24   (Member) Finally got the Blu-Ray awhile back, and it looks/sounds great. Goldsmith's score was one of the earliest I heard and that formed my initial love for film music. My dad had the vinyl LP (which I still have), and I used to listen to it all the time as a kid, conjuring up my own images to go with the music. (I wasn't allowed to watch the movie until some time later.) My only complaint is the borderline anti-climactic ending when Sean Connery confronts Peter Boyle, but otherwise it's a great flick. And funny that Sternhagen played John Ratzenberger's mom on Cheers, as he appears as the worker who dies in the opening scene. Small world.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 8:23 PM     By:   bondo321   (Member) Wow what are the odds, I literally just finished watching this movie for the first time! I'm on a Peter Hyams and Jerry Goldsmith kick right now, so I watched Capricorn One first    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 10:18 PM     By:   dragon53   (Member) MIKE_J: I've got HANOVER STREET on dvd. It wasn't a pleasant movie to watch---until I listened to Hyams' commentary that the movie is an homage to the World War II movies actually made during the war years. Then it sank in. Plus it has a John Barry score.    Posted:   Jan 14, 2013 - 10:20 PM     By:   dragon53   (Member) MICHAEL24: I agree. When I watched the movie last month, I thought the ending where Sean Connery punches Peter Boyle was pretty tame. I think a shoot-out between them would have been better. If I remember correctly, Hyams said he originally cast a man for the doctor's role, but his casting director told him to hire Sternhagen. which Hyams said turned out be the correct decision.    Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 3:14 AM     By:   Metryq   (Member) OUTLAND is the movie I showed to my bosses when recommending Sternhagen for a role in a movie we were making, LANDFALL. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300106/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3 The movie is an "Americanized" version of an Australian movie called KINDRED SPIRITS. I've never seen KINDRED SPIRITS, but I can't say I was terribly impressed with the script for LANDFALL. The movie was never sold. I met Sternhagen a few times during production, although most of my time was spent back at the office, working on digital effects for the movie.    Posted:   Jan 15, 2013 - 3:24 AM     By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member) >>>>>>I don't know about Outland's source material--I'm sure it will be discussed here--but I love its sheer ugliness>>>>>>> It was written by Hyams himself, but as you say, it's an obvious homage to HIGH NOON, just reset in outer space and jettisoning the love interest - or at least relegating them to a out of reach distance. He was also heavily influenced by the look and design of ALIEN from two years previous, as his film also obviously uses that films' corporate humdrum, dirty lived-in look. It's a clunky, enjoyable thriller, the type that Hyams excelled at during 1977-1990 period and as folks say, it has a stomping Goldsmith score that elevates the film up another few notches.     Non-Film Score Discussion: OUTLAND: Hyams, Connery, Sternhagen & Goldsmith!    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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