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 Posted:   May 15, 2013 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   ShadowStar   (Member)

"Fear of Victory" by Lisa Bloom and Carlos Rodriguez
A short score - it can't be more than ten or fifteen minutes - that nicely interpolates the Scarecrow's theme, perhaps better than any other episode featuring the character, and might be one of the creepiest scores of the series thanks in part to that.

There is some original material, but a significant portion of the music in this episode is taken directly from Shirley Walker's score for "Nothing to Fear," which has already been released. I believe it's the only prominent example of tracking in the series.

I have to say, one of the hardest things about working on these releases is that you KNOW you're going to wind up omitting SOMEONE'S favorite cue or episode. Hopefully, most of the people will get most of what they want!

Uh oh... I was afraid that this would be cited as a possible reason for "Fear of Victory" being omitted from volume 3... Hoping it will be included, but you seem to be hinting that it might not be...

I love the music for the rooftop/gargoyle struggle and the Arkham scene, so I'll be disappointed if those tracks don't make it onto volume 3 in some form. I would love for them to be bonus tracks, if nothing else!

My top choices for volume 3:

Fear of Victory - for the reasons I've given above.

The Man Who Killed Batman - love all the music for the episode, from the variations of Sid's theme, to the fight at the docks, to the Joker's lair, to the bank heist, to the triumphant Batman/Rupert Thorne showdown!

I Am the Night - Jazzman's theme is great, a lot of the music is so powerful and poignant (especially at the end), and it's thanks to the music that the second attempt on Gordon's life at the end is so exciting.

Mudslide - beautiful and heart-wrenching variations on Clayface's theme here, especially at the end.

Those are my top 4 from the remaining 65, but I would also suggest:

Tyger, Tyger - the exotic music is quite cool.

Joker's Wild - some interesting, frenzied variations of Joker's theme here.

Also, "What is Reality?", "Off Balance", "P.O.V.", "The Worry Men", "Eternal Youth", "Be a Clown", "His Silicon Soul", "See No Evil" and "The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy" and "The Underdwellers" would be nice to have. But for me, they don't take precedence over the six I listed above, and I know that we can't have the music for every episode.

I'd throw in "Robin's Reckoning part 1" and "The Clock King" but I think they're already confirmed for inclusion?

Is there any news on when this will be released?

 Posted:   Jun 12, 2013 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

"Zatanna" by Nerida Tyson-Chew and Peter Tomashek

Great magic show music that occupies much of the first act - of the episode, not Zatanna's show - along with some nice action music for both the sequence with the trap of spikes as well as the climatic scene aboard the jet.

 Posted:   Jun 12, 2013 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I might be interested provided it does NOT contain anything Joker. I hate that character and hate the eternal carnival fairground music that piece of junk always gets; goddamned HATE BOTH OF THEM.

If there were more tracks like the divinely beautiful "Office muzak" from "Heart of ice" (Batman The Animated Series Vol 2 CD1), it would be an instant buy for me.


 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I'm not sure my hatred runs quite as deep as yours, but I've never especially liked the Joker's episodes or his music either. His best episodes were those that found him paired with Harley, but his solo outings were among the show's weakest. Of the currently released BTAS music, I admit I really don't listen to the Joker episodes much, but there's some great stuff in "Christmas with the Joker" and that infernal main theme from "The Last Laugh" definitely falls into the "hate-to-love-it" category for me, haha.

That said, I can think of two yet unreleased scores from episodes featuring the Joker that really do have some great music in them: "The Man Who Killed Batman" and "Harlequinade". But I don't think the Joker's characteristic carnival theme features prominently in either. Also, even though I don't really enjoy listening to that theme on its own, the theme definitely suits the character within the show, and no matter my thoughts on the character himself (he's one of my least favorite Bat villains as well), I'm always entertained by Mark Hamill's zany vocal performances.

 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Joker's episodes were often some of the best of B:TAS.

I hope we hear news on Volume 3 soon. I was expecting it soon, since I think Volume 2 was revealed last year before San Diego ComicCon. But with ComicCon just a month away now and still nothing, I'm starting to think it might be a little longer of a wait.

 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Some of Joker's episode scores, were amongst the best scores of the series; "The Last Laugh", "Joker's Favor" and "The Laughing Fish" for example.

I think I'm in the majority here: love the Joker's faux circus-like theme. Perhaps it's the slide whistle (penny whistle?) that drives some people mad.

 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:36 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I'm in the majority as well - Joker episodes were among the best due not only to the character but the music. Part of what makes the music great is that, along with melodic variety among the episodes, none of them overdo the theme (which is really true of all the villain themes). They were always nicely placed and used sparingly.

"Harlequinade" is indeed a great score and would be most welcome when LLL gets to The Adventures of Batman & Robin.

 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 6:51 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

A lot of the themes were used more often, but were arranged and orchestrated in such a way as you wouldn't necessarily identify them right off the bat. That was the beauty of Walker's and some other composer's talent on the show.

I rembmer how delightful it was to hear, for example that the soft music playing when the Penguin was on a date in "Birds of a Feather" and the intercutting action music, was all Penguin's theme: (1:52 to end of cue)

Or that the large action music aroudn the end of the episode "Perchance to Dream", was nothing more than the Mad Hatter's theme in disguise.

Or that the music for when Harley pops out of the cake in "Joker's Favor" is nothing more than Joker's theme: (6:29 in)

 Posted:   Jun 14, 2013 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Yes, there's that as well (which was just brilliant).

 Posted:   Jun 18, 2013 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   ShadowStar   (Member)

"Harlequinade" is indeed a great score and would be most welcome when LLL gets to The Adventures of Batman & Robin.


And while we're talking about The Adventures of Batman and Robin, I'll throw in that Michael McCuistion's excellent "Make 'Em Laugh" score should be included on that release too.

Hopefully "The Man Who Killed Batman" will be on volume 3. So that makes three unreleased Joker scores that I'd really like to own, plus I wouldn't mind seeing "Be a Clown" on volume 3.

 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   Spider-Fan   (Member)

Someone said on LLL's facebook that the editor announced it wouldn't be released this year, but I can't find the post, may someone link to it?

Concerning the episodes of Volume 3, if it is a four disc set we can hope 24 episodes if they put 6 on each (counting 12 minutes for each but most are shorter (9mins only for Fear of Victory and Eternal Youth) so we could even last to 7 to reach the 79min a CD allows) so I think I'd like the most:
#32-33: Robin's Reckoning 1-2
#07: P.O.V.
#08: The Forgotten
#29: Eternal Youth
#54: Zatanna

#17: See No Evil
#24: Fear of Victory
#36: Cat Scratch Fever
#43: Moon of the Wolf
#62: His Silicon Soul
#09: Be a Clown

#06: The Underdwellers
#19: Prophecy of Doom
#45: Terror in the Sky
#50: Off Balance
#52: Mudslide
#53: Paging the Crime Doctor
#65: The Worry Men

#38-39: Heart of Steel 1-2
#31: The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
#35: Night of the Ninja
#48: What is Reality?
#55: The Mechanic

 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

MV said a few weeks ago here at FSM that it won't be released until next year.

 Posted:   Sep 15, 2013 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   General Kael   (Member)

MV said a few weeks ago here at FSM that it won't be released until next year.

I've given up on my incessant hope for the Ten Commandments as my next big thing to look forward to, and since this seems to be a little more concrete, I'm now anxiously awaiting the day that volume 3 is released!

 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I'd like to add that if Volume 3 closes out the initial 65 episodes, it would obviously be the set to include any remaining extras or alternates. The different end credit music heard in "The Forgotten" from the first DVD box, for example, is not among the alternates found on LLL's Volume 2 CD. Would be nice to have that.

 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

The different end credit music heard in "The Forgotten" from the first DVD box, for example, is not among the alternates found on LLL's Volume 2 CD. Would be nice to have that.

The "alternate" you mention is simply a distorted version of the already cut-down TV edit (which can be heard on LLL's Vol. 1), sped up and then pitched down. It was probably done on account of the episode running slightly long.

At this point, all of the recorded title music for the original 65-episode production run has been released -- or at least, everything that I'm aware of! Which is not to say there won't be a little something extra from the Walker files for you guys on Vol. 3, if all goes well... smile

 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Oh... well, okay. I thought it was a different recording, but maybe not. It sure sounds different. smile

 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   darknite39   (Member)

This is one of the few times I will both say and mean this: I want everything possible from this series. It is my holy grail, musically. I don't care about the cost.

What I'm saying is: 10 disc set or bust!

 Posted:   Feb 21, 2014 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   ShadowStar   (Member)

When I've wondered about which scores will be featured on volume 3, I've repeatedly dismissed "Terror in the Sky", thinking of it as a retread of the "On Leather Wings" score. Having just watched the episode again though, I have to say that I was wrong: while "On Leather Wings" is superior, Shirley Walker did a great job on "Terror in the Sky", fleshing out the Man-Bat theme. It's a wonderful score, and I'd say it deserves a spot on volume 3, along with "The Man Who Killed Batman", "Fear of Victory", "I Am the Night", "Mudslide" and "Be a Clown".

 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   ShadowStar   (Member)

I had a quick look back at some of the scenes which had music that didn't make it onto volume 1 - episodes like "Perchance to Dream" and "Vendetta" were missing some of their music. Many of the cues that were omitted from volume 1 were inconsequential but here are the ones which I quite liked. I've included rough timings for them. Hopefully they can be included on volume 3 - there should be space with any luck.

It's Never Too Late - Batman and Stromwell on the Roof - 19 seconds

Two-Face part I - The Psychiatrist Summons Big Bad Harv/Candace Outside the Office - 45 seconds total

Two-Face part II - Two-Face Drives Past Grace's Apartment - 13 seconds

Vendetta - 1) Batman and Bullock in the GCPD File Room - 45 seconds
2) Batman Interrogates Rupert Thorne - 1 minute 48 seconds

Perchance to Dream - 1) Bruce in the Wayne Enterprises Office - 21 seconds
2) Bruce Runs from the Police - 50 seconds

Hope there's room on volume 3 for the "Perchance to Dream" and "Vendetta" ones at least.

 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Yeah I notice LLLR omitted some cues from Vol 1 and that's probably b/c on the 1st pressing or edition of Vol 1 had a 14 minute or so suite of themes from the show on disc 1 and an interview with Walker added on disc 2 if I recall. They omitted those from the 2nd edition. I think they didn't add anything on the 2nd edition as in the missing cues b/c they didn't want to cheat those who bought the 1st edition of Vol 1, which is understandable. And as much as I would like those missing cues you mentioned I doubt they would add 'em on Vol 3 though. And I'm cool with that. I mean we can't have everything no matter how we much we want something. Besides I'm just grateful LLLR reissued Vol 1 anyway b/c I missed out on the first edition. It's better than nothing.

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