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 Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Bruce Kimmel comments from the new thread about Intrada's upcoming 5/6 Goldsmith titles:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=94746&archive=0

"That said, even we will have our very first and probably very last Goldsmith title. I was going to do Breakheart Pass two years ago but Mr. Ford Thaxton convinced me not to because it had taken a pretty amount of time to sell out the first release - he also felt there was nothing to do to improve what had come before. So, that fell into the "why" category, but it seems any label will jump on anything with Mr. Goldsmith's name because he is, you know, the only composer who wrote decent film music. "

Obviously there's some sarcasm at work. While Goldsmith certainly wasn't the only composer to write GREAT (much less decent) film music, he is my personal favorite film composer so I'm very excited to see what you have coming, Bruce! (He is also one of the most prolific film composers, which is one of the reasons all the labels give him so much attention -- there's just so much Goldsmith *to* release!)

Can we hope for a clew or tew? Is this a Fox score revisit by Michael Mattessino perhaps? Something(s) previously exclusive to the Varese Goldsmith at Fox box, now giving loving stand-alone treatment, perhaps expanded? Some MGM or Paramount (Seconds?) reissue? Or could this actually be a premiere?

Jeff Bond in the thread above pointed out Breakheart Pass is missing one great climactic cue that wasn't found when LLL did it--I assume it's lost (or maybe Morton Stevens wrote it!) but if anyone ever finds it I'll happily buy the score a second time...

I hope that if that cue is ever found you *will* do the Breakheart Pass reissue you wanted to do before...after all the LLL was the premiere legitimate release so it's not exactly overexposed.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Hi, Yavar.

I am thinking that a Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack on Kritzerland would likely come from either 20th Century Fox or Paramount.

Unless the mystery title would be THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD (the film was distributed by AIP - so perhaps the original sound elements have been in an MGM vault just as with some previous Les Baxter releases), my guestimates lean towards Fox.

Nick Redman in more recent years at Fox has unearthed more comprehensive versions of DAVID AND BATHSHEBA and THE RAINS OF RANCHIPUR, so perhaps some Goldsmith titles at Fox (which were formerly incomplete or deemed missing) have been uncovered as well.

I'll hazard guesses for:

  • TAKE HER SHE'S MINE (has been considered as either missing or unusable - maybe that's changed)
  • SHOCK TREATMENT (expanded from the 2004 Goldsmith at Fox box)
  • THE DETECTIVE (expanded from the Fox box)

    THE DETECTIVE could perhaps also be paired with another Frank Sinatra vehicle, such as Billy May's TONY ROME or Hugo Montenegro's LADY IN CEMENT.

    Any guesses from anybody else?

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     Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 5:05 PM   
     By:   James Corry   (Member)

    Well I would certainly welcome a release of "The List Of Adrian Messenger".......

    J.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 5:52 PM   
     By:   Great Escape   (Member)

    I would love Von Ryan's Express.

     
     Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 6:05 PM   
     By:   Buscemi   (Member)

    I'm thinking it probably will be Breakheart Pass. The La-La Land release goes for quite a bit now.

     
     Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 6:44 PM   
     By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

    That said, I was going to buy my first... and now probably my very last Kritzerland title. Of course I thought about it two years ago, but then a friend in a place to know in the industry said "Don't bother, I have it on good word it's coming out again in an expanded edition with two extra cues on another label and besides, this one's not moving very fast anyway because everybody knows that." You know, now that Kritzerland is releasing a Goldsmith it seems that just anybody will jump on anything with Mr. Goldsmith's name, especially Kritzerland, because they want everyone to think they're the only label that releases decent film music anymore.

    Yes... sarcasm intended!

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 7:27 PM   
     By:   haineshisway   (Member)

    That said, I was going to buy my first... and now probably my very last Kritzerland title. Of course I thought about it two years ago, but then a friend in a place to know in the industry said "Don't bother, I have it on good word it's coming out again in an expanded edition with two extra cues on another label and besides, this one's not moving very fast anyway because everybody knows that." You know, now that Kritzerland is releasing a Goldsmith it seems that just anybody will jump on anything with Mr. Goldsmith's name, especially Kritzerland, because they want everyone to think they're the only label that releases decent film music anymore.

    Yes... sarcasm intended!


    Glad you noted the sarcasm. Now all you have to do is add humor and you'll really be potent. smile You seem to be upset. Why? Because I made a humorous post about these endless Goldsmith releases. Others "got" it, but not you? You can't really be this not with it, can you? You see, there's a big difference here - my post was intended to be humorous and I think that's pretty obvious. Yours, on the other hand, is intended to be mean-spirtited. I don't know what your little quote is supposed to represent - a little too obtuse for the room perhaps.

    EDIT: Oh, I see. You got upset because I invoked your hero's name in a way you didn't like. Just a quick perusal over the thread you've posted in, every one of which has to do with only Mr. Goldsmith and it becomes painfully obvious. Unbelievable. So, let me be the first to tell you that Mr. Goldmith up through the mid-1980s had or has no bigger fan than I. I have championed him since I was a teenager, which, BTW, was when he began getting popular, which wasn't, BTW, in the 1980s. Are all Goldsmith FANatics as humorless?

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 9:19 AM   
     By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

    Mr. Haineshisway:

    "Would you care for a jelly baby?"

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 9:54 AM   
     By:   Francis   (Member)

    Will it be limited at 1000 copies?

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 10:12 AM   
     By:   eriknelson   (Member)

    Maybe Bruce found the electronic tracks from DAMNATION ALLEY. We can hope....

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 10:39 AM   
     By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

    Ooops, double post...

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
     By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

    Are all Goldsmith FANatics as humorless?

    I'm in love with a lot of Goldsmith scores, but fanatic isn't the true word.
    But I enjoyed your post. Was funny and entertaining.
    The rush of Goldsmith releases is great (from my point of view), but I don't like all of them.
    GLADIATOR for example was rejected for a good reason, it was (to my ears) horrible....
    BUT if you'd release a Goldsmith title that was written before the mid-80s...I'd buy the next moment (except it is a re-re-release without upliftings in sound or including more tracks).
    So let it come. So I'll be able to buy my fifth and maybe very last Kritzerland CD...;-)

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 11:10 AM   
     By:   haineshisway   (Member)

    Mr. Haineshisway:

    "Would you care for a jelly baby?"


    Dear I walk among you:

    Don't walk among us. smile

    What IS a jelly baby? When I was a kid they used to sell Chocolate Babies, but had to stop for what are probably obvious reasons. I kid you not. They used to sell 'em in movie theaters.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 11:11 AM   
     By:   haineshisway   (Member)

    Well, now we have two Goldmsiths coming - when it rains it pours. smile

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 11:40 AM   
     By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

    SEBASTIAN?!?!?

    Perhaps... wink

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 4:12 PM   
     By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

    Well, now we have two Goldmsiths coming - when it rains it pours. smile

    I'm hoping for a deluge! Great work Bruce...no matter what the titles are!

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 4:54 PM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    What IS a jelly baby?

    The British sweet of choice offered by Tom Baker's DOCTOR WHO, typically as a ploy to distract an adversary.



    "Would you like a jelly baby?"

     
     Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 8:32 PM   
     By:   IWalkAmongYou   (Member)

    "What IS a jelly baby?

    "The British sweet of choice offered by Tom Baker's DOCTOR WHO, typically as a ploy to distract an adversary."


    Thank you!

    I couldn't have put it better myself (which is clearly why I didn't)! And a perfect choice of picture as well.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 27, 2013 - 3:53 AM   
     By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

    Well, now we have two Goldmsiths coming - when it rains it pours. smile


    Poooooh, I fear you guys really start to drive crazy. So I can welcome you...;-)

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 27, 2013 - 3:53 AM   
     By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

    I AM crazy because I'm always posting twice... smile

     
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