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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


What are the chances of a new release of Waxman's amazing score for Sayonara? Does more exist out there that can be compiled and released? I can dream can't I?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 5:34 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Love this Waxman classic, a complete release with better sound would be wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I always loved the Lp of this score. WAXMAN was a great one.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2013 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.


Thanks for sharing this info. I too have the Entr'acte LP that recorded to a cassette some years ago. I too am ready for the real thing too.

Is anyone listening out there?

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.


Bill,

I resurrected this thread again because I was listening to this score today and was again caught up in Katsumi Theme and Death Scene. My God, these are beautiful pieces. Death Scene is gut wrenching but so beautiful. I would give anything for a re-release.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.


Bill,

I resurrected this thread again because I was listening to this score today and was again caught up in Katsumi Theme and Death Scene. My God, these are beautiful pieces. Death Scene is gut wrenching but so beautiful. I would give anything for a re-release.


A great, great score. The video rights are owned by MGM, but the music is still controlled by Warners, so it will take someone who has an in there to make it happen, and that's only IF they have elements.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.


Bill,

I resurrected this thread again because I was listening to this score today and was again caught up in Katsumi Theme and Death Scene. My God, these are beautiful pieces. Death Scene is gut wrenching but so beautiful. I would give anything for a re-release.


A great, great score. The video rights are owned by MGM, but the music is still controlled by Warners, so it will take someone who has an in there to make it happen, and that's only IF they have elements.


Bruce, I am so naive about this stuff. I know someone with the last name of Warner? Does that help?

Seriously, is there anyone on the board that has an in? Again, naive here but I can only hope.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I always loved Waxman's musical reply to having to use the Irving Berlin song (as good as it was). Waxman dealt with it, but he also wrote a theme that (at least IMO) was better than the song by Berlin (The Katsumi theme was Waxman's own creation).

Since I only have the Entr'acte album and the RCA compilation CD, I'm ready for the real deal.


Bill,

I resurrected this thread again because I was listening to this score today and was again caught up in Katsumi Theme and Death Scene. My God, these are beautiful pieces. Death Scene is gut wrenching but so beautiful. I would give anything for a re-release.


A great, great score. The video rights are owned by MGM, but the music is still controlled by Warners, so it will take someone who has an in there to make it happen, and that's only IF they have elements.


I vaguely recall someone who had some connection with the greater Turner/Warner/Rhino corporate organization. What was his name again? Lukas something.....Lukas Kimball, maybe.....Lukas Kendall, perhaps. I wonder if he's still around and in the business..... smile

Incidentally, about 15 or so years ago (or maybe more), there was a B**T of SAYONARA floating around in the CD black-market, which was more complete than the RCA soundtrack album, and seemingly with several alternate versions of some cues, too. I would guess that there was 30-40 % more music on this recording. I also seem to recall, unfortunately, that this additional music was in mono (or very poor stereo) and one wonders what the source of the extra material was. It didn't sound like it came directly from the Warner vaults, but who knows?

I wonder if RCA has an "in perpetuity" ownership of this score on recording, and, if so, if they could be worked with, and in turn, Warners could be worked with, to finally give us a complete version---even if it meant melding mono and stereo. (I suppose the Irving Berlin estate would also be a fly in the ointment, although since his death, I believe the executors have been more open to negotiations for his music, too.)

SAYONARA is an excellent score, and it would certainly be of value to Golden Age fans to have this in an expanded version, if the production cost was not too dear.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV


And, while you're waiting, pick it up for a buck at the thrift store, like I did. This LP is EVERYWHERE.

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV


You have given me a we bit of hope! Amen!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV


And, while you're waiting, pick it up for a buck at the thrift store, like I did. This LP is EVERYWHERE.


I have it indeed. Picked it up from Alibris a few years back. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I've always liked Waxman's music for "Sayonara," which is very reminiscent of his music for "My Geisha." I have a CD called "The Film Music of Franz Waxman," which has about 14 1/2 minutes of music from "Sayonara" in the cues "Opening," "Eileen," "Katsumi's Theme," and "Street Fight." On the same CD are several tracks from "My Geisha," and some from "Peyton Place" and "Hemingway's Adventures Of A Young Man." It would be great to have a CD of the entire "Sayonara" score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2013 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

I've always liked Waxman's music for "Sayonara," which is very reminiscent of his music for "My Geisha." I have a CD called "The Film Music of Franz Waxman," which has about 14 1/2 minutes of music from "Sayonara" in the cues "Opening," "Eileen," "Katsumi's Theme," and "Street Fight." On the same CD are several tracks from "My Geisha," and some from "Peyton Place" and "Hemingway's Adventures Of A Young Man." It would be great to have a CD of the entire "Sayonara" score.


Hi Ron,

I've noticed a few of your other posts, particularly about theatre, with which I have also had some connection.

E-mail me, and we can discuss Waxman, among other things. (address on my profile.)

Best,
John

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

I had the LP music on RCA Spain CD, it was abysmal. If you value more than the wonderful quality of Waxman's music avoid it like the plague, get the film and watch that instead.

 
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