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 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

Here's a sampling of Tommy Tedesco's wonderful guitar work on John Williams' THE RIVER.

The cue is "The Pony Ride"

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eehl5mikG9c

Please share more of your favorite Tommy Tedesco Film Score performances! He did so much great stuff!

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

James Horner's delicate and heartfelt FIELD OF DREAMS performed by Tommy Tedesco.

His work on Horner's IN COUNTRY is also truly superb!

The main theme from FIELD OF DREAMS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-PWkGafXo&list=PL3924A57F046635CE

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Jeez, where to start? Tommy Tedesco has played on hundreds of film scores! The AFM list for Film Score Monthly releases recorded in LA shows that he's on dozens of them, and that's a mere fraction of course of his total output!

So I really don't know where to start - OK, here's hoping my YouTube links work.

CONRACK (John Williams)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ggCpKlU5h8

CALIFORNIA SUITE (Claude Bolling)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IAa4iaLmI8

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Those two examples were just off the top of my head. Neither truly showcase the guitarist as the focal point of the piece, but his contributions are immense.

By the way, the CALIFORNIA SUITE track is just a great piece of music, with Tedesco coming in swingingly just before the 1-min mark. But it's really an ensemble piece for all those great musicians involved.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I think these are actually Tommy Tedesco's hands. Not a virtuoso piece, but we do like our poignant Goldsmith touches.

RIO LOBO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTNAZ1ILV4

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Here's a sampling of Tommy Tedesco's wonderful guitar work on John Williams' THE RIVER.

The cue is "The Pony Ride"

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eehl5mikG9c

Please share more of your favorite Tommy Tedesco Film Score performances! He did so much great stuff!


an exquisite example.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

+ Rio Lobo - Goldsmith
+ Busting - Goldenberg (see the "Busting Thread" where I analyzed some of his cues)
+ Bonanza (The TV Show)
+ California Suite, which Graham mentions. Chuck Domanico plays bass, and Shelly Manne on drums.
+ French Connection - Don Ellis (don't believe this is mentioned in the FSM web credits)
+ The Godfather - Rota
+ Enter the Dragon - Schifrin (yeah, that's him on the main titles)
+ Suicide is Painless - Just about sure that his him on the M*A*S*H theme.

My personal favorite of him playing is the Rooftop Chase from Fielding's The Enforcer. He makes some mistakes, but it is an excellent line. Groovy as all hell, and real nice tone from his preferred Gibson.

I believe is he is the most recorded guitarist in history.

[edit]Here is the Busting link I mentioned:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=3&threadID=87440&archive=0

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

The cue is "The Pony Ride"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eehl5mikG9c

Please share more of your favorite Tommy Tedesco Film Score performances! He did so much great stuff!


He sure did; but 'Pony Ride' was the first one I was going to nominate. I used it in a home movie a few months ago, because it meant a lot to me: https://vimeo.com/60704291

I also love his work in Jerry Goldsmith's score to "Rio Lobo" mentioned above.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Right lexedo - "Rooftop Chase" from THE ENFORCER is a super-classic for me. I see that Tommy Tedesco was only one of four guitarists on this (the others being Dennis Budimer, Al Hendrickson and Tony Rizzi). Can you pick out Tedesco amongst the others? I'm not that good.

By the way (learning all the time), I just heard the Jay Chattaway piece "Primal Scream" as performed by Maynard Ferguson in 1976. As it has little or nothing to do with this actual thread, I'll leave it up to the curious to delve into it and make some kind of connection. It's on YouTube if anyone's interested.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

He also performed the opening riff on Dominic Frontiere's main title for "Hang 'Em High".

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Whenever a score topic comes up, and if I know TT is playing, I try to mention that. So, there have been a few threads this year where I speak about TT; Cool Hand Luke is one of those. Sadly, the "term search" doesn't yield so many useful results.

Anyway GSW, there was an Enforcer thread that Onya Birri started (dude, where is that legendary bucket-o-jazz-knowledge anyway?), and in there I deduced the TT call, which, if I remember since I can't find the thread, was something along the lines of: 1. Gibson; 2. wrist fluidity; 3. pick usage; and 4. The "Bonanza" theme as a reference. I think I also used a Tom Scott record that DB played on so as to remove him from consideration. Al H and Rizzi didn't really do that heavy fusion stuff tbh. I did think that DB may have been doing the "wah-wah (wacka-wacka)" fills on Rooftop Chase.


I must have hundreds of Guitar Players from the 70s, and TT used to write the articles in there about the studio, and sight-reading, etc. I should get those scanned and send them to everyone.


I can generally make calls on players and guitars up until the early 80s. After that, they started building axes in Japan and everywhere else, so it gets a bit harder. Plus, all the guys after the 70s started playing $25K custom axes, so that didn't help either.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2013 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Oh hey, btw, that doesn't mean I am correct. I'll have to give it a listen when I am back in town. If anyone finds that Enforcer thread, please post it so I can review the drivel I was putting forward.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Your drivel was most informative, lexedo!

By the way, I wasn't going to make a big deal about this here (no Tedesco connection as far as I know), but what does this remind you of?

PRIMAL SCREAM (1976 - written by Jay Chattaway and Maynard Ferguson, performed by Ferguson et al) -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HLLGkuljUVk

By the way, I've bumped your other thread, the one with Onya's input, and added my own drivel.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I know the topic here is film scores featuring Tommy Tedesco, but as a classic rock fan I can't help myself from mentioning that this guy, as an integral part of the ubiquitous group of studio session players often referred to as "The Wrecking Crew," played on an unbelievably large proportion of the top 40 hits of the past. Just the tip of the iceberg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tedesco

Check out The Wrecking Crew and you'll get a whiff of their (and Tedesco's) vast presence in the "hit factories" of the 60s and 70s in particular. (One of its members, drummer extraordinaire Hal Blaine, played on 8 straight Grammy "Record of the Year" winners, including Bridge Over Troubled Waters. Tedesco may have been in on all, probably most of those.)

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Your drivel was most informative, lexedo!

By the way, I wasn't going to make a big deal about this here (no Tedesco connection as far as I know), but what does this remind you of?

PRIMAL SCREAM (1976 - written by Jay Chattaway and Maynard Ferguson, performed by Ferguson et al) -
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HLLGkuljUVk

By the way, I've bumped your other thread, the one with Onya's input, and added my own drivel.


That's great, and you're right, it is almost exactly the Rooftop Chase changes, updated a bit with the slap-bass, etc. I mean, even the bass line is very close. (If you listen to Rooftop Chase, you'll notice the bassist, which I assumed was Ray Brown, is leading the beats w dotted-sixteenths. It's almost hard to hear if you are not paying attention.) Can't do much better in the 70s than Maynard w Peter Erskine on drums. But, definitely wasn't expecting Jay Chattaway, especially w the Chuck Norris film scores and all. Really great. (Someone made a thread about "Criteria for good film scores," and one I wanted to mention was "surprise." You should be surprised when you listen to good music.)

Dana is right on highlighting the Wrecking Crew. Such fun w the 70s music; so much room to play, and try new things. I need to get you guys some scans of TT Guitar Player articles.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

GSW, that was the Enforcer thread I was speaking about. Thanks. But, it didn't have the post I was thinking about. Damn.

Maybe there was another thread where I mentioned that I wished Magnum Force would get the Schifrin / WDR Big Band treatment. And then someone talked me down from that slippery ledge, and I felt better for a few hours. Maybe in that thread I gave some info on the Rooftop Chase and TT, etc.


Anyway, we started to really focus on the studio musicians on some of these soundtracks probably about 6-12 months ago. So, here are some that I did get right:
- Artie Kane: Pelham 123 end titles (by reference);
- Artie Kane: One is a Lonely Number Source Rock Cue (by reference);
- Chuck Rainey: Bassist on Sanford and Son (Streetbeater) Theme;
- QJ: That he didn't "write" the rhythm parts for the Sanford and Son (Streetbeater) Theme - they were improvised;
- Bucky Pizzarelli: Playing on the Bananas ST (KR AFM List and ear);
- Blackbird Mcknight: Playing guitar on the Death Wish main titles (by reference w the live Headhunters record, Flood);
- Abe Laboriel: Bassist on Tootsie, and I analyzed a few tracks in the Tootsie thread;
- Larry Carlton: Magnum PI theme solo; and
- Tommy Tedesco: Guitarist on Busting, and some potential cues he's on.

So, I'm trying fellas. I am completely intrigued by Rooftop Chase (again). I hope this doesn't lead me to update my wardrobe to all polyester (again), bc the last time almost burned down my house. I do admit to feeling "more comfortable" in polyester, as I am sure most of you do too.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Tommy was a great guy. We had him on our David Shire at the Movies CD, and he's on Too Late Blues (with fellow guitarist Barney Kessel and Laurino Almeida, another great guitar player who is on a ton of film scores).

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I'm gonna cheat because even though he didn't play in the film score, Pat Metheny did, when Jerry Goldsmith decided to perform UNDER FIRE at the Dorothy Chandler Pavillon in 1984 he picked Tommy Tedesco to do the guitar solo. The performance was so indelible in my mind I often would credit him as DOING the film. But when you are lucky enough to hear something like that it burns irretrivably into your psyche.

...and ironically Lavaman2000 recorded it...back in 1984....obviously from his seat in the balcony. Bad sound but it brings back the memories.


 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Nice post K. Totally forgot about Shire at the Movies. Can't wait to hear Too Late Blues.

Check this gents:

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2013 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

That's an interesting read, lexedo. I'd often wondered how much freedom jazz musicians had to "do their own thing" on scores, outside the notes actually written by the composers. This is going off-topic (I think we touched on it in another thread - these things all merge into one), but, for example, would Jerry Goldsmith just have had an outline for some of the more jazzy tracks on the FLINT movies (I know he didn't usually work that way on his symphonic scores) and told Ronnie Lang, Bob Bain, Al Hendrickson etc just to improvise around the bare bones? I don't think he was even present (nipped out for a cigarette) when Mike Lang, Chuck Domanico and Steve Schaefer recorded the End Titles for THE EDGE. What about Marsalis et al on THE RUSSIA HOUSE?

Anyway, as I say, I think we were speaking about that somewhere else. There was a thread that Lukas started about the AFM list, one on Artie Kane, and a few (I think) on instrumentalists themselves. Probably buried in one of these.

Sorry about the derailment.

 
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