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 Posted:   Aug 5, 2002 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   DynoDux   (Member)

I watched an early trailer for the film Young Guns yesterday. The trailer had James Horner's suspense music and the credits said "Music by James Horner".

I don't care for the replaced rock score. Does anyone know what happened with regards this film and it's music?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2002 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   SuperFan   (Member)

James Horner did write an electronic score for the film but it was rejected at the last minute and replaced with a score by Anthony Martinelli and Brian Banks.

I would love to know how he scored a western using electronic music. The strange thing was that the director rejected one electronic score and replaced it with another!?!?!

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2002 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   DynoDux   (Member)

I wonder if Horner had done the music... would there still be no soundtrack album?

What we do need is a legitimate release of Alan Silvestri's Young Guns II.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2002 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   lars b   (Member)

Young Guns 2 would make a fine Varese-Club release !

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I imagine people already know this, but just in case (cos I didn't til recently), you can hear almost 5 minutes of Horner's unused score for Young Guns on this CD.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Camera-Reflections-Film-Music-Incantation/dp/B000083GOY/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1434109356&sr=1-1&keywords=incantation+camera

It features lots of other film themes too, by Chris Young, Ennio Morricone, George Fenton and Michael Nyman, but the majority is Horner stuff.
If you don't mind alternate versions of your movie themes, the CD is a pleasant listen and it is cool to hear what Horner did on Young Guns.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   jb-martin   (Member)

After registration, you will have the possibility to download Tony Hinnigan’s albums. Pounce on Camera Album: Reflections On Film Music, which features scores by James Horner including one unreleased track of the score for the rejected film Young Guns.

http://www.tonyhinnigan.com./albumMain.php

source: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/major-update-of-the-tony-hinnigan-website/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

His Young Guns theme reminds me a bit of Zorro.
Not re-used as such, just calls to mind in structure and rhythm.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

His Young Guns theme reminds me a bit of Zorro.
Not re-used as such, just calls to mind in structure and rhythm.


Well, it *is* the same composer.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   digitalfreaknyc   (Member)

Side note: would still like an official release for the official score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2015 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

After registration, you will have the possibility to download Tony Hinnigan’s albums. Pounce on Camera Album: Reflections On Film Music, which features scores by James Horner including one unreleased track of the score for the rejected film Young Guns.

http://www.tonyhinnigan.com./albumMain.php

source: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/major-update-of-the-tony-hinnigan-website/


Or just go to iTunes for 99 cents Camera - Reflections On Film Music Soundtrack

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2016 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   DynoDux   (Member)

Sorry for bringing up an old thread I created nearly 14 years (!!) ago, but I know some forum members don't like multiple threads on the same topic! ;-)

I would love to see a 2CD release of this score (similar to Intrada's 'The River Wild' release) with Anthony Marrinelli & Brain Banks unreleased score on CD1 and James Horner's rejected unreleased score on CD2.

It would also make a great companion piece to Intrada's excellent Young Guns II CD.

Does anyone know if these recordings still exist?

Here's a sample...

Original score ("Main Titles"):

https://youtu.be/ouKu6uPnXek

Tony Hinnigan's re-recording of rejected score ("Main Titles"):

https://youtu.be/x4xzEjGpVpA

I wonder if Horner's Magnificent Seven theme will sound anything like this??

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2016 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

Nothing "official" is out on Banks/Marinellis score, but it is an awesome 80´s score with a great main theme, the Kinney chase theme and the end showdown as my favourite themes...

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2023 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Coming to 4K December 5th.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/100623-1230

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2023 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Horner had kept this one from getting released. Now that he has passed, the estate will probably be cooperative. I think Deadly Blessing was another he kept from getting released, but the estate must have approved it. I guess its just a matter of time.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2023 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Choptop   (Member)

An official release may be on the way. From a review of the new 4k blu:

"Best of all, you get to hear clips of Horner’s original unused score, played over actual film footage (and compared to the Marinelli score, so you can fully appreciate the tonal differences). If you’re a true fan of Young Guns, this thirty-minute piece is worth the price of the disc all by itself."


https://thedigitalbits.com/item/young-guns-35th-4k-uhd-2023

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2023 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Awesome news!

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2023 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Woah, well that's promising news.
The review describes it as "Irish-string" based, and of a different tone than the film's "humor". All very promising.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2023 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Was the score actually recorded or were there just demos?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

It was completed. Everything I've read leads me to believe it probably was sibling to Patriot Games in tone and texture (for sure with a theme that went on to become "The Ride" in Zorro and other reports saying there's bits of Braveheart, too). Tony Hinnigan wrote about it:

You won't have heard this score, as it was binned. This happens to all film composers at some point and is, simply, a production decision and an occupational hazard. In this case, however, I think the producers made (especially considering the replacement score - in my humble opinion, a pile of ****!) a huge mistake. We recorded it in the old Air studios at Oxford Circus, London, and it was our introduction to the "Panpipe Olympics" (see "Patriot Games"). James asked us to find a piper to play a slow air at the top and bottom of the movie so we got Tommy McCarthy (RIP), a very, very fine piper from Co. Clare, then living in London. Tommy played so beautifully that James said " Lads, I don't know what we're paying Tommy, but double it!".

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2023 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

An official release may be on the way. From a review of the new 4k blu:

"Best of all, you get to hear clips of Horner’s original unused score, played over actual film footage (and compared to the Marinelli score, so you can fully appreciate the tonal differences). If you’re a true fan of Young Guns, this thirty-minute piece is worth the price of the disc all by itself."

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/young-guns-35th-4k-uhd-2023


To clarify, the "thirty-minute piece" refers, I think, to the entire documentary "How the West Was Wild: Making Young Guns". The sections of film with Horner's score are just "clips" within the documentary.

 
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