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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Chickenhearted   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

The clock struck 12, and the rat did run, hickory, dickery, dock.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Everybody's talkin at me
I dont hear a word they're saying
Only the echoes of my mind

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Bob Hope had to make a special speech explaining to the public why an X-rated movie won the Best Picture Oscar...

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Like Bob Hope had a clue why it won Best Picture!

1969, folks!

Two great performances, two Best Actor nominations, each significantly better and more powerful than the actor who was "given" an Oscar for being who he was rather than for giving a great performance.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

And featured one of John Barry's loveliest, most haunting pieces ever.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:45 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Like Bob Hope had a clue why it won Best Picture!

1969, folks!

Two great performances, two Best Actor nominations, each significantly better and more powerful than the actor who was "given" an Oscar for being who he was rather than for giving a great performance.


Ron, that's true in theory -- but in retrospect , I am glad that the man who created Ethan Edwards, the Quiet Man and the Ringo Kid, among many others, did win for Rooster Cogburn - he was iconic of course but he was a talented actor too.

Joe Buck and Ratzo Rizzo are wonderfully memorable characters and both of these fine actors won Best Actor Oscars later. This was the Duke's last chance.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

philiperic, I believe you have put this in proper perspective.
When the awards were presented, most of us felt exactly the same as Ron.

Sometimes, history does correct itself.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Chickenhearted   (Member)

Everybody's talkin at me
I dont hear a word they're saying
Only the echoes of my mind


 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Chickenhearted   (Member)

And featured one of John Barry's loveliest, most haunting pieces ever.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2013 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

And featured one of John Barry's loveliest, most haunting pieces ever.



Awesome, thanks! One of my all-time favorites. I even like F&T’s “water guitar” version.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2013 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Like Bob Hope had a clue why it won Best Picture!

1969, folks!

Two great performances, two Best Actor nominations, each significantly better and more powerful than the actor who was "given" an Oscar for being who he was rather than for giving a great performance.


Ron, that's true in theory -- but in retrospect , I am glad that the man who created Ethan Edwards, the Quiet Man and the Ringo Kid, among many others, did win for Rooster Cogburn - he was iconic of course but he was a talented actor too.

Joe Buck and Ratzo Rizzo are wonderfully memorable characters and both of these fine actors won Best Actor Oscars later. This was the Duke's last chance.


They could have given him a special Oscar. A competitive Oscar win remains, to me, ludicrous. I never found him the least bit "talented" as an actor. He was a talented personality..at playing and being himself. Enjoyable, yes, but never on a level anywhere near such "actors" as Peter O'Toole or Richard Burton, much less Hoffman and Voigt...or even Rock Hudson, James Dean or Tony Curtis. Oscars are not supposed to be about taking a "chance" to honor someone who never previously merited a nomination. "True Grit" and Rooster Cogburn were enjoyable cinema, but not more.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2013 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Like Bob Hope had a clue why it won Best Picture!

1969, folks!

Two great performances, two Best Actor nominations, each significantly better and more powerful than the actor who was "given" an Oscar for being who he was rather than for giving a great performance.


Ron, that's true in theory -- but in retrospect , I am glad that the man who created Ethan Edwards, the Quiet Man and the Ringo Kid, among many others, did win for Rooster Cogburn - he was iconic of course but he was a talented actor too.

Joe Buck and Ratzo Rizzo are wonderfully memorable characters and both of these fine actors won Best Actor Oscars later. This was the Duke's last chance.


They could have given him a special Oscar.

When? when he was dying ?

A competitive Oscar win remains, to me, ludicrous.

Competitons amongst actors playing widely disparate roles ARE ludicrous , not just in this case.


I never found him the least bit "talented" as an actor. He was a talented personality..at playing and being himself.

So you think that he played himself as Ethan Edwards (THE SEARCHERS) and Thomas Dunson(RED RIVER) -- for example.


Enjoyable, yes, but never on a level anywhere near such "actors" as Peter O'Toole or Richard Burton ...or even Rock Hudson, James Dean or Tony Curtis.

But yet none of them ever won an Oscar.

Oscars are not supposed to be about taking a "chance" to honor someone who never previously merited a nomination.

He was previously nominated for SAND OF IWO JIMA.

"True Grit" and Rooster Cogburn were enjoyable cinema, but not more.

Hmm - many consider TRUE GRIT a classic.

Im not a huge Wayne fan but I think that his career is remarkable and that he won an Oscar for TRUE GRIT because the Academy voters thought that he deserved one , for whatever reasons - I doubt that Hoffmann and Voight begrudge his win. And I love MIDNIGHT COWBOY btw.

 
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