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 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Check this great article by Mr. Geoff Zanelli himself. All composers should have this kind of positive attitude. Thank you!

http://www.ascap.com/playback/2013/06/wecreatemusic/nmt-geoff-zanelli-on-how-to-get-your-score-soundtrack-released.aspx

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Thanks, he seems like a friendly guy indeed. I guess that is one of the things Hans looks for when he gives an unknown composer a chance. No introvert hang-heads at RC, lol.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Thanks, he seems like a friendly guy indeed. I guess that is one of the things Hans looks for when he gives an unknown composer a chance. No introvert hang-heads at RC, lol.

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

As for Geoff Zanelli, he's been the mop boy in Zimmer's factory for how many years? I remember quite liking his orchestral score to the firework show in Disneyland and that was composed, what, 15 years ago?

What did he do to piss off Zimer Da Man? Why can't he be as successful as the other Zimmer pets (Lorne Balfe etc.)?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.

If you know anything about the way Hollywood works, they actually are very essential for getting a job in the first place.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.

If you know anything about the way Hollywood works, they actually are very essential for getting a job in the first place.


That and being an Yes! man all the time, or being an illegitimate son of a big rainmaker.

Which is exactly why Hollywood sucks.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.

If you know anything about the way Hollywood works, they actually are very essential for getting a job in the first place.


That and being an Yes! man all the time, or being an illegitimate son of a big rainmaker.

Which is exactly why Hollywood sucks.


And yet you say you're a fan of music from Hollywood movies?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)


And yet you say you're a fan of music from Hollywood movies?


I don't remember saying that.

But yes, I like McDonald's and big stupid Hollywood entertainment as much as the next guy.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Great article indeed. 4 rules for all seasons.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.

If you know anything about the way Hollywood works, they actually are very essential for getting a job in the first place.


That and being an Yes! man all the time, or being an illegitimate son of a big rainmaker.

Which is exactly why Hollywood sucks.



Let's say you're a building contractor, or a plumber, or a landscaper. Someone hires you renovate their house, or install new plumbing, or build a deck. The person who hired you tells you what they would like you to do.

In scenario A, you do exactly what your client asks of you, you build the deck to the specifications, you renovate the house in exactly the style the client wants. You are easy to get along with, friendly, approachable, open to communication, and complete your project on time and on budget. The client is enormously happy with your work, pays you handsomely, and recommends you to all his friends and colleagues so you get more work.

In scenario B, you are an artiste, and you'll build the deck or renovate the house in the way YOU want to do it, irrespective of the wishes of the person who is actually paying you. You work hard and tirelessly, you are clearly extremely talented at what you, and *occasionally* you actually succeed and produce a masterpiece by doing your own thing and wowing the customer with your brilliance. However, most of the time, at the end of it all, the customer isn't happy with what you did because it's not what he asked for and doesn't fit with the rest of the house/garden. He has to hire someone else to do it instead, and ends up paying more than he would have done because you wouldn't take direction, and thought you knew better.

Transpose these scenarios to Hollywood. Which composer has the longer career?

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

What did he do to piss off Zimer Da Man? Why can't he be as successful as the other Zimmer pets (Lorne Balfe etc.)?

Because (1) he hasn't scored any big hits solo, (2) in addition to his decent stuff he's also made some poor stuff like Gamer and Outlander. But then again Lorne Balfe is pretty consistently mediocre so who knows.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2013 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Thanks, he seems like a friendly guy indeed. I guess that is one of the things Hans looks for when he gives an unknown composer a chance. No introvert hang-heads at RC, lol.

Yeah because dudebro social skills are the essential part of composing music.


No, but it is a part of it. Probably why you never became a film composer. The lacking social skills, I mean.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2013 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

As for Geoff Zanelli, he's been the mop boy in Zimmer's factory for how many years? I remember quite liking his orchestral score to the firework show in Disneyland and that was composed, what, 15 years ago?

What did he do to piss off Zimer Da Man? Why can't he be as successful as the other Zimmer pets (Lorne Balfe etc.)?


Geez, he doesn't even know who he's talking about. That is GAVIN GREENAWAY.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

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