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 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I was watching "The Big Valley" on D.V.D. and noticed that George Duning's main title is a song without lyrics, and that it mentions "The Big Valley" in the music without any lyrics ("The Big VALLEY"!). I can think of only two other main titles that mention the film's title in the main title without the lyrics - James Bernard's "Horror Of Dracula"'s ("Drac-A-LA" and Frank Devol's "The Dirty Dozen" (The Dirty DOZEN"). Can anybody out there think of any more examples?

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

SU-PER-MAAAAAN!

Donner says that he ruined a take the first time he heard the orchestra play it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

And Nelson Riddle's BATMAN as well.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

SU-PER-MAAAAAN!

Donner says that he ruined a take the first time he heard the orchestra play it.



And Williams did the trick again three years later:

Da da di daa, da da daaa, da da di daa, IN-DI-AA-NAA JONES...!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

STAAAAAR WAAAARS, NOTHING BUT STAAAAR WAAAARS.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I sing -

This IS the theme fro-om Star Trek, Star Trek the Wrath o-of Khan...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

And Nelson Riddle's BATMAN as well.

Neal Hefti wrote "Batman". Nelson Riddle scored the TV series and the movie.
Hefti would joke that the credit on the sheet music shouldn't be "words and music by.." it should be "word and music by.."

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

You would be surprised how many title songs have lyrics that no one ever hears. I learned about this as a kid when I found out that even "Our Man Flint" has lyrics.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2013 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

E -T THE EX-TRA-TER-RES-TRAL

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I wonder if there was a vocal version of Miklos Rozsa's A TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO DIE... the opening melody follows the title to perfection.

"A time to love
And a time to die
A time to love and a time to die
Och aye"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I wonder if there was a vocal version of Miklos Rozsa's A TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO DIE... the opening melody follows the title to perfection.

"A time to love
And a time to die
A time to love and a time to die
Och aye"



That would be McLos Rozsa.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Ha! I've just done a bit of research (clicking buttons on the compo) and I see that a song titled "A Time to Love" was performed in the film by "an uncredited blonde in the cabaret sequence". Lyrics by Charles Henderson. Couldn't find the lyrics themselves though. Must admit, I don't recall a song in the film... Does anyone remember if she goes "Och aye"? I do imagine that the song follows the Main Title melody.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Here are the lyrics by Jaime Schnazelbauf for a title melody by Bernard Herrmann. See if you can guess the film:




'Lunatic, lunatic, I've dementia,
Lunatic, Lunatic, rooms to rent ya:
Off my nut, off my head,
Time to put - Mom to bed,
Spoilsports - should - get - STUFFED



Lunatic, lunatic, every crackpot
Once in a while must hit the jackpot.
Here comes Jan - et Leeeeeeeigh.


Some-times things get ver-y haz-y
I think I might be quite craz-y
Wouldn't - hurt - a - flyyyyyyyyyy.


Off my nut, off my head,
Can't accept - Mom is dead,
Be-ware - of - the - swamp.


'Lunatic, lunatic, I've dementia,
Lunatic, Lunatic, rooms to rent ya:
Pull up here, rooms to let
Rainy night, why get wet?
Unless you'd - like a SHOWWWWWWWR?'





I think I read somewhere that Herrmann refused to conduct it. Well, you'd expect that really. It wasn't a big hit, despite the film's success, and Schnazelbauf didn't become an A-list lyricist, though I believe he wrote arrangements for Jerry Lewis..

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Ah yes William. That's the rejected song written for PSYCHO. It resurfaced in HIGH ANXIETY but, once more, preview audiences felt that it made the film "more kind of like a comedy", and it ended up on the cutting-room floor.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2013 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

I was watching "The Big Valley" on D.V.D. and noticed that George Duning's main title is a song without lyrics, and that it mentions "The Big Valley" in the music without any lyrics ("The Big VALLEY"!). I can think of only two other main titles that mention the film's title in the main title without the lyrics - James Bernard's "Horror Of Dracula"'s ("Drac-A-LA" and Frank Devol's "The Dirty Dozen" (The Dirty DOZEN"). Can anybody out there think of any more examples?

Not a main title but an end title. I believe Leonard Rosenman's end title to Robocop 2 has a chorus chanting, "Robocop"! No other lyrics, just ..... "Robocop!"

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2013 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Ah yes William. That's the rejected song written for PSYCHO. It resurfaced in HIGH ANXIETY but, once more, preview audiences felt that it made the film "more kind of like a comedy", and it ended up on the cutting-room floor.


Yes, there's a story, I dunno if it's apocryphal, that Goldsmith was asked to use the song as an end-title play-off for 'Psycho 2', but he declined vigorously. Perkins was apparently not averse to singing it, I suppose because it had publicity potential and might be a possible record hit.

Schnazelbauf's original issue of his autobiography, 'Sing it Like You Mean it' apparently has some deleted material on this, but ANY copy is hard to find nowadays. His career might have beem so different if his jazz title song lyrics for 'Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?' had been accepted.

 
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