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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   nipotente   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   nipotente   (Member)

More Treasures in the Trash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsd2uJ_YjGo

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   MattyO   (Member)

This makes me sad frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

So, the score has been rejected ?

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2013 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

So, the score has been rejected ?

The big news was reported at FilmMusicReporter.com. New composer already recorded hi score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 12:59 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Those sheets beg the question. if they can credit specific orchestrators on individual cues on the sheet music, why not on the soundtracks?

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

If they can't credit the composers on "Zimmer" scores, why should anyone bother with giving credit to the orchestrators?

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Exactly.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Those sheets beg the question. if they can credit specific orchestrators on individual cues on the sheet music, why not on the soundtracks?

It's probably a cost thing. They probably have to pay somebody to pull the cue sheets and get the information.

For example, there's a minimun fee to get a musician's list for a score (something like $75 a believe, and it's for a minimum three scores look up).

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

If they can't credit the composers on "Zimmer" scores, why should anyone bother with giving credit to the orchestrators?

Actually, I think Zimmer is pretty up-front about crediting "additional composers" on his albums, and even the end credits of the movies he works on. Name one Zimmer score that doesn't credit three "additional music by..." composers and half-a-dozen orchestrators.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Those sheets beg the question. if they can credit specific orchestrators on individual cues on the sheet music, why not on the soundtracks?

That would imply authorship, which in most cases would be unfair to the composer, and would undoubtedly create all sorts of theories among know-nothing know-it-alls about who really was responsible for this or that sound. I believe that the credits on the sheet music are not there so the orchestrator can receive acclaim, but so that if there is an error or inconsistency on the music itself, the right person is alerted to clear it up. (I suspect this also needs to be logged in the cue sheets for ASCAP/BMI purposes, but I'm not certain of that.)

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

If they can't credit the composers on "Zimmer" scores, why should anyone bother with giving credit to the orchestrators?

Actually, I think Zimmer is pretty up-front about crediting "additional composers" on his albums, and even the end credits of the movies he works on.


Indeed. And it's those very credits that create such contempt among so many here. But they love to play all sides of the argument, don't they?

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2013 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

If they can't credit the composers on "Zimmer" scores, why should anyone bother with giving credit to the orchestrators?

Actually, I think Zimmer is pretty up-front about crediting "additional composers" on his albums, and even the end credits of the movies he works on. Name one Zimmer score that doesn't credit three "additional music by..." composers and half-a-dozen orchestrators.



and orchestrators don't always get such a credit?
The point was giving them credit for the specific cues they worked on in the CD notes. I haven't seen that on any Zimmer score since The Rock when Don Harper got the credit for The Chase cue in the film (not sure if it was listed in the CD notes as well). I doubt that Zanelli for example will receive any credit for the final cue in that recent western garbage I can't remember right now.

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2013 - 3:46 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I doubt that Zanelli for example will receive any credit for the final cue in that recent western garbage I can't remember right now.

He did in the end credits, as I recall (they scrolled by awfully fast).

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2013 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Not just Zanelli but how about Susie Seiter and the rest of the crew? (And let's consider for a moment that 85% of the "Finale" was written by the long-deceased Gioachino Rossini. I wonder if he'll be upset?)

 
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