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 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Yes, you were the ones I grew up with. There is no Lone Ranger and Tonto other than you two. I am so glad that you weren't around to know of the Jerry Schlockheimer and Johnny Dreck fiasco.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Yes, you were the ones I grew up with. There is no Lone Ranger and Tonto other than you two.

Amen.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

The new reboot is offensive.

I stand with Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

As a side note, to me Johnny Depp is the most overrated excuse for an actor there ever was. As long as he takes home his millions I guess he couldn't care less. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I really disliked the characterization of the Lone Ranger character, as a well-meaning but basically ineffectual nincompoop, and felt that the character of Tonto was poorly drawn and inconsistent from one scene to the next. I disagree about Johnny Depp being a talentless actor, as cody1949 suggests, but this Tonto was nothing more than a bit of silliness designed to capitalize upon his popular Jack Sparrow character from the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN series. I would thank the producers, writers and director for that. The film has its humorous moments but most assuredly is not for the LONE RANGER purist. Hopefully, by virtue of its complete failure at the box office, we're unlikely to see any further chapters of this particular conceptualization of the franchise (for which we can all be happy). It's Clayton Moore (of the wonderful voice and true heart) and Jay Silverheels (despite or maybe because of his hilarious comment on the Tonight show about the many "lousy years" he spent as Kemosabe's go-fer) for me as well. No tears will be shed here for this one bombing.

NOTE: Rotten Tomatoes: Critics, 28% liked it; those who saw film, 62% liked it, most movie-goers (apparently) scared away by critics or word-of-mouth from the 38% who didn't like it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I always associate Jack Wrather with the "Lone Ranger" series, but he was not its creator. Fran Striker created the "Lone Ranger" radio series in 1933, and along with George Trendle created the "Lone Ranger" television series in 1949. In August 1954, Jack Wrather paid $3,000,000 for the rights to the property. Included in the deal were 130 television programs, 1,500 radio transcriptions, as well as all merchandising and cartoon contracts. Wrather also received control of all stock in Lone Ranger, Inc., then owned by George Trendle.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

I really disliked the characterization of the Lone Ranger character, as a well-meaning but basically ineffectual nincompoop, and felt that the character of Tonto was poorly drawn and inconsistent from one scene to the next. I disagree about Johnny Depp being a talentless actor, as cody1949 suggests, but this Tonto was nothing more than a bit of silliness designed to capitalize upon his popular Jack Sparrow character from the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN series. I would thank the producers, writers and director for that. The film has its humorous moments but most assuredly is not for the LONE RANGER purist. Hopefully, by virtue of its complete failure at the box office, we're unlikely to see any further chapters of this particular conceptualization of the franchise (for which we can all be happy). It's Clayton Moore (of the wonderful voice and true heart) and Jay Silverheels (despite or maybe because of his hilarious comment on the Tonight show about the many "lousy years" he spent as Kemosabe's go-fer) for me as well. No tears will be shed here for this one bombing.

NOTE: Rotten Tomatoes: Critics, 28% liked it; those who saw film, 62% liked it, most movie-goers (apparently) scared away by critics or word-of-mouth from the 38% who didn't like it.


From an artistic standpoint I'm not sure I see much point in remaking a series if it's going to be just like the original. I can just go watch the latter. If the argument is the new one doesn't contain the basic trademarks of the old -- fine.

One misconception about Depp made by a former poster here is that he is somehow "above" the material. He is bohemian by nature, and they tend to approach acting in an unconventional manner. You like it, or you don't. One valid criticism is that Depp has become a caricature of himself. His makeup and wardrobe suggest Jack Sparrow, but in his interview with Letterman he said he doesn't pay a whole lot of strict guidance to what directors want because he wants to bring in spontaneity to his characters. I think he puts a very heavy emphasis on his characters and that is why he hasn't been in to many good films. I haven't seen the film and have little desire to, so I cannot comment on his role. It looks like though the intention was to make Tonto the lead. The good new is the days of Jack Sparrow may finally be over.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

The radio RANGER is definitely the gold standard. Literate, progressive, with vivid characterizations. The TV show was strictly for kids, which is no slight - just the reality. I'll see the picture on cable but what I've seen so far leaves me colder than a dude holding aces & eights. No surprise that Hammer was dressed as a "corporate ranger".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Ray, you bring back a pleasant 1973 memory of being in the audience at the old Dick Cavett Show and then chatting afterward on the stage with announcer Fred Foy, who was kind enough to repeat his famous opening monologue from the LONE RANGER program.

I aso was one of those at home watching the Carson show on that historic night when he interviewed Silverheels in character as Tonto. My favorite moment: "I peeked behind his mask once -- No big deal."

 
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