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All this back and forth between LLL and Perseverance has made me wondering. What's a good, reliable and impartial source to find out of a particular release is legit or not?
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If you send me a free copy of any release, I will tell you whether or not it is legal. This is the only way to be sure.
I also offer verification services*.
* = all CD's non returnable and become property of the verifier.
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I usually check Soundtrek Collector - they list official releases and bootlegs.
SoundtrackCollector.com
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soundtrackcollector.com is a remarkable resource. You can even catalog your collection there.
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I don't know how ever to completely know, but I could confidently shout from a mountaintop that the following companies have always released, and will always release legally:
Intrada
Varese Sarabande
La La Land Records
Film Score Monthly (retired)
The only reason I know is because they have a long standing history, and are well regarded by just about everybody. They wouldn't still be around if they didn't know what they were doing. Doug Fake, Robert Townson, MV Gerhardt, Matt Verboys, and Lukas Kendall have high standards as do their product. I would be surprised to see "bootlegger" used in a sentence with these guys. There are some other labels that don't have the same respect due to questionable practices (we all know who they are). I never see that happening within the four labels mentioned above and I don't think we ever will!
-Rick O.
That's all true, and I was going to say "It goes without saying!", but it's always possible for a new guy to join the board and not know what these labels represent.
I would go a step further in what you were saying: The above CD producers, and I would add Bruce Kimmel of Kritzerland (haineshisway), can be sources of information when a release is of uncertain provenance. Sometimes they will know that a release is not legit and they'll say so when the subject comes up.
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I don't know how ever to completely know, but I could confidently shout from a mountaintop that the following companies have always released, and will always release legally:
Intrada
Varese Sarabande
La La Land Records
Film Score Monthly (retired)
The only reason I know is because they have a long standing history, and are well regarded by just about everybody. They wouldn't still be around if they didn't know what they were doing. Doug Fake, Robert Townson, MV Gerhardt, Matt Verboys, and Lukas Kendall have high standards as do their product. I would be surprised to see "bootlegger" used in a sentence with these guys. There are some other labels that don't have the same respect due to questionable practices (we all know who they are). I never see that happening within the four labels mentioned above and I don't think we ever will!
-Rick O.
Why didn't you include in that list to Quartet or Kritzerland? I think that all their editions are legal.
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Jul 25, 2013 - 7:31 AM
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bdm
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Sometimes it comes down to where you are; the board is based in the US, and subject to US laws, and labels in the US are subject to US laws, while those of us not in the US, and labels not in the US are not subject to US laws, but the laws of where we are, so some releases would be illegal in the US, but legal where we are.
iTunes is a classic example of this, as those in the US have access to files those out of the "continental boundaries" do not, while those in Canada, UK, Europe, Japan, etc, have access to files those in the US do not; some are illegal there but not here, and illegal here but not there... All comes down to licencing and copyright laws of the various jurisdictions.
As this board is based in the US, and subject to US laws, the proprietor has asked those not in the US to respect that the board is, and the US labels deal with the US companies to license product, and ask us to respect that as well, which is fair game; so sometimes the argument of "legit or not" is just pointless here, as when we post here, we agree to abide by "the rules" here, while other boards in other jurisdictions could have different rules, regulations, and definitions.
In the old days, usually a CDR in the case, and some rather mundane artwork, and no liner notes, and poor sound quality were the giveaways. But now some legit releases are on CDRs, and have mundane artwork, no liner notes, and the sound quality is what it is due to the conditions of the tapes, while a non-legit item has a pressed CD, fantastic artwork, some liner notes, and good sound - ah, the wonders and terrors of the internet.
As to how to find out? The above suggestions make sense, with the above caveat for location.
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I don't know how ever to completely know, but I could confidently shout from a mountaintop that the following companies have always released, and will always release legally:
Intrada
Varese Sarabande
La La Land Records
Film Score Monthly (retired)
The only reason I know is because they have a long standing history, and are well regarded by just about everybody. They wouldn't still be around if they didn't know what they were doing. Doug Fake, Robert Townson, MV Gerhardt, Matt Verboys, and Lukas Kendall have high standards as do their product. I would be surprised to see "bootlegger" used in a sentence with these guys. There are some other labels that don't have the same respect due to questionable practices (we all know who they are). I never see that happening within the four labels mentioned above and I don't think we ever will!
-Rick O.
True. But Intrada is a very reputable label also. Yet they released Your Sherlock Holmes years ago, and it turned out that there was a licensing issue.
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Jul 25, 2013 - 5:52 PM
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manderley
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All this back and forth between LLL and Perseverance has made me wondering. What's a good, reliable and impartial source to find out of a particular release is legit or not?
1- Fill an eyedropper with a small quantity of acid. 
2- Deposit several drops of the acid on each of the playing surfaces of the two discs you wish to compare.
3- The disc whose surface bubbles and deteriorates is the bootleg, the good disc only oxidizes. You can, thus, tell which is the bootleg. If you are on a tropical island and a TSUNAMI rolls in, you can throw the bootleg into the water and it will wash away.
4- Unfortunately, after your testing, the good disc is also ruined from the oxidation, but now that you know which is the good disc, you can easily pick up another one like it and throw that test disc in the trash or try to sell it on eBay.
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