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 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   smuli of finland   (Member)

That one thread got a bit out of hand, reminded me of all those discussions about Zimmer. So I got to wondering, does anyone have anything good to say about Perseverance.

I've only about half-a-dozen of their releases. Red Sonja was good enough for me released as such. I was happy when I read that Rain Man was coming, but the sound quality was a disappointment. The most important thing for me was Corigliano's rejected score for Edge Of Darkness.

Unfortunately I don't have much praise for this label. But if you have, please, post it. For me, Perseverance is maybe kind of a half-assed label. But that's probably because, and you might want to check this on google translate, half of the word literally means 'ass' in Finnish (perse = ass).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

So you open up a new thread because the old one was being too harsh on the label and then call them half-assed... nice.

I only own the Perseverance release of The Gauntlet and I'm glad to have it. Nice notes by Nick Redman and the score is great.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

They made Exorcist II affordable. Don't get me wrong, there's more in the film that I wish had been represented, but it's better than $30+ for the Warner France release.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

The only Perseverence release I have is "The Witches of Eastwick," which was a marked improvement over the previous Collectors' Choice reissue as far as sound goes.

I definitely plan on picking up the Puppetmaster box...someday. That's a release that's up my alley.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Gary Radovich   (Member)

Robin has been doing a fine job in a tough industry...more praise to anyone who releases orchestral filmscores these days !

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I've got 3 Perseverance CDs:

Hans Zimmer's Rain Man, which I love.
Nick Glennie Smith's The Secret Adventures Of Jules Verne 2CD, which is enjoyable but a little too long.
Gary Chang's Death Warrant, which is not a strong score, but I like the fact that it got released.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

So you open up a new thread because the old one was being too harsh on the label and then call them half-assed... nice.


Hey man, cut Smuli some slack. He never even posted on that other thread. And he didn't call them half-assed. He said "maybe kind of"... there's a difference. Plus, he explained his use of the phrase.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I like all the Persey discs I have, their production value is
always top notch.

Did a great job on Young's UNFORGETTABLE, which I never see mentioned.

And some nice work with composer Donald Rubinstein, distributing personal
albums & getting us a very good KNIGHTRIDERS cd.

Isham's NOWHERE TO RUN is a great little gem I was happy to get.

The PHIBES scores sounded like a headache to put together, and I enjoy
those often, including the pretty candid-non fluffy notes of Phibes 1, and the
problems the composer & filmmakers had.

All this political stuff, I don't think any of 'us' really have a dog in the race.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Staying with this positive line, finally hearing the original CHINATOWN score was a revelation. Thanks Perseverance.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   smuli of finland   (Member)

So you open up a new thread because the old one was being too harsh on the label and then call them half-assed... nice.

My "half-assed" remark was meant as a joke. But I find it here, as in actual face-to-face life, that my jokes don't get understood. On the inter web it is especially difficult because I don't use smiley faces ever. The joke was, that half of the word 'perseverance' means ass, thus: Perseverance is half-assed. Well, as a Finnish comedy team once put it: Humour doesn't always have to be funny.

Anyways, I certainly didn't mean for this one to be another hate thread. I was very happy to have a reissue of Red Sonja, and that particular album is now in a Life Savers folder on my computer, along with about 40 other albums from my favourite composers.

Lilies Of The Field was nice to have, as I want to have every Goldsmith on my shelves. Same goes for Three Amigos, although in that case I want all Bernsteins.

Also releases like Konferenz Der Tiere, Slipstream and Nowhere To Run are good listens, and I've rated them relatively highly, on a scale from 0 to 5, they're all in 3,5 - 4 (I can be a bit harsh at times, some of McCreary's Galactica scores are to me 'coasters').

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

I ordered 3 CDs from Perseverance 2 weeks ago - my first direct purchase from them. The discs were with me in England five days later! And I liked the discs very much.

Sadly, the owner was subjected to, in my opinion, outright bullying from a bunch of people with selective memories. It was like Lance Armstong competing clean on the tour in 2013 and using the press to moan about riders he thinks might still be doping.

Would the 'promo' Perseverance were giving away stop sales of full blown soundtracks by the same niche composer? No. Way. But would bad public behaviour from the owners of other labels make me think twice about buying their products? Maybe. And it would have been definitely if they hadn't blatantly backtracked from their original 'we won't stop till this guy does' garbage.

Let's not forget the composers. Persey have a signing this weekend with a hugely impressive roster of composers supporting them. Could the other labels do this? And while another label are trying to sort out legal issues on a release, let's not forget that the composer was either ignored or just didn't care and asked Persey to release it for him instead. Which they did. As an excerpt. On a promo. Given away as a freebie.

It's unfortunate that this all kicked off. But when the owner of Perseverance makes a lengthy and detailed rebbuttal to the claims against him and the fact that he even bothered was used by FSM as an indication that he must be a bad apple, then it's hard not to feel for the guy and what he's up against.

1-0 to Perseverance.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Runestone, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Chinatown I highly recommend; Perseverance released my favorite Richard Band score "Mutant" expanded but with poor sound quality (I hope Intrada will remedy this as their original album release sounded excellent). The Puppet master boxset however was ok. I also applaud them for the Chris Young "Unforgettable" release which sounds great. Of the recent Warner reissues I got "The Exorcist" and it's ok. I do like that Robin will release scores that might not have been high on people's wishlist but goes for it anyway and this has resulted in some nice gems.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)


My "half-assed" remark was meant as a joke. But I find it here, as in actual face-to-face life, that my jokes don't get understood. On the inter web it is especially difficult because I don't use smiley faces ever. The joke was, that half of the word 'perseverance' means ass, thus: Perseverance is half-assed. Well, as a Finnish comedy team once put it: Humour doesn't always have to be funny.



My bad, I didn't read the original thread through carefully enough. Please accept my apologies and I hope there's no hard feelings.

Chris

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   smuli of finland   (Member)

My bad, I didn't read the original thread through carefully enough. Please accept my apologies and I hope there's no hard feelings.

I get to so-and-so amount of misunderstandings with my humour in written form due to the lack of smileys and in real life due to my dead-pan delivery. So an ounce of fault lies with me.
Apologies accepted, hopes fulfilled.

Rejected Chinatown will probably be included in my next order from SAE. Thanks for recommendations.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I have a decent number of releases by them and I love them all.
The David Newman releases are a godsend and very much appreciated.
Red Sonja is great, especially in bite-sized chunks.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers = GREAT!!
Lilies of the Field also = GREAT!!
Corigliano's rejected Edge of Darkness score was one of my top 5 favourites of that year!
I also bagged that Lambro sampler of various scores and enjoy it.
So yeah, I like their releases and will buy any future ones that tickle my fancy.
Company politics is as boring as hell, certainly to people on the outside (moreso, sometimes to people on the inside wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Really great releases are for me Chinatown rejected and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. But I still think a release like The Gauntlet was a lost chance, sorry! This really should have been expanded and presented c&c! Hope this CD does not prevent such a release in the future.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Praise? Yeah I can deliver three reasons for praise:
Beyond excellent, finally a CD of the music I had been wanting for almost a decade - Red Sonja.
Nice expanded that really added new stuf to what I already had - Remo.
Good stuf - Capricorn one.

Now if they do a COMPLETE CD of Michael Perilstein's "Godzilla vs your mother", I would be happy to add that CD to my list of "Good memories that made it from vinyl to resin and alminium".

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Giorgio Moroder   (Member)


NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER and BLOODSPORT

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Staying with this positive line, finally hearing the original CHINATOWN score was a revelation. Thanks Perseverance.

I agree with you. LOVED to finally hear this one. I have several of their scores and I have enjoyed each one. I thought their re-issue of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was gorgeous. Artwork, notes everything was looking awesome.

I think folks have mentioned literally a few titles with issues, keep in mind they've released over 65, so there are plenty of them that were just fine, no issue that people enjoyed, myself included smile

It would be great to have positive threads about all the labels. Trust me they ALL work their tales off to give us score junkies what we crave smile Nice to see Witches and my FAVORITE Three Amigoes out again. Always been a favorite of mine and now can finally dispose of my cheap LP to CD transfer!

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Robin Esterhammer   (Member)

Looks like I have to post yet another time after all.

Thanks for all the kind words you guys are sending my way. It's nice to know that there are people, who appreciate and like what one is doing.

I also truly appreciate Intrada's kind olive branch gesture. Thanks, guys! I know this is a competitive business, but I would much rather prefer if we could all get along and be happy if another label gets a good release out, after all, we are all in it for the same reason. I know I am.

BTW, for those who enjoyed Mutant, we have a major surprise coming up...

Hope to see many of you on Sunday at 2pm at Dark Delicacies here in Burbank.

Your friend,

Robin Esterhammer

 
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