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 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Which do you feel is stronger?

I love most if not all of Spider-Man 3 but I believe Batman & Robin is probably more ornate.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Not sure what you mean by "stronger " but Goldenthal always beats Elfman in my books.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Death Incarnate   (Member)

Another vote for the master Goldenthal.
Still waiting on a release of his original soundtrack presentation.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Not sure what you mean by "stronger " but Goldenthal always beats Elfman in my books.

o.O Christopher Young did Spider-Man 3, not Danny Elfman.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

BATMAN & ROBIN is the far better score in my opinion, if that's what you mean. Both films are terrible.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Not sure what you mean by "stronger " but Goldenthal always beats Elfman in my books.

o.O Christopher Young did Spider-Man 3, not Danny Elfman.


Ah, that's right. Still prefer Goldenthal.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

This maybe sacrilege but I never cared for Batman and Robin.

I also think that Young's Spider-Man 3 score is the best of the four Spider-Man scores.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?


Because The Good German

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?

Because the music for the fourth movie in one franchise is obviously comparable to the third score in another. Um...

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   EvilDead   (Member)

My guess is, they are both unreleased superhero scores smile

And I would love an official release of Spider-man 3 - Christopher Young did some great work on that score!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:22 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)



 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

I like where this is going.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?

Because...

a) They are both generally considered to be the absolute worst films in their respective superhero franchises, so much so that both franchises would demand a total reboot with completely different casts, writers, and directors some years later.

b) Both are generally considered to be fantastic scores.

c) Both are completely unreleased, despite their predecessors and successors all receiving respectable releases.

Sounds like good enough criteria to me. I have no bat or spider in this fight, so I'll just say: yes, both Batman & Robin and Spider-Man 3 should get some kind of release. smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:41 AM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?

Because...

a) They are both generally considered to be the absolute worst films in their respective superhero franchises, so much so that both franchises would demand a total reboot with completely different casts, writers, and directors some years later.

b) Both are generally considered to be fantastic scores.

c) Both are completely unreleased, despite their predecessors and successors all receiving respectable releases.

Sounds like good enough criteria to me. I have no bat or spider in this fight, so I'll just say: yes, both Batman & Robin and Spider-Man 3 should get some kind of release. smile


Could NOT have said it better myself. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Spiderman 3, not because I am a devout Young fan, but because Batman & Robin is too hectic to sit through for me (and a bit too reminiscent of Batman Forever). Movie-wise, I did enjoy Spiderman 3 on some level whereas Batman & Robin was pure ****.

For me a better comparison would be Elfman VS Young for the Spiderman scores, or Elfman VS Goldenthal for the Batman scores. In the former Young would win and in the latter Elfman would win.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

The Goldenthal, easily.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Although I enjoy Batman & Robin, I have to go with Spider-Man 3. Young's music for the Sandman literally pulling himself together and the theme for the black costume puts Spider-Man 3 on top for me. To be fair though, I haven't seen Batman & Robin in a long, long time, and have no plans to see the film again, so I may be discounting that score. With any luck, both scores will get proper releases some day.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

Why exactly are these two scores being compared?

Both were entries in highly successful franchises that were so bad they killed it dead. Both needed a reboot.

Both were on Danny Elfman's turf.

Both replacement composers had already had a taste. Goldenthal for a score, Young for half of one.

Both bucked the trend of instant CD releases of the score.

Both are considered to be abominable films but, contrary to public opinion, their respective directors can blame the public for their acceptance of the previous entry which also sucked ass. *Schumacher has in fact said so much.

Both were - in my bloody humble opinion - films based on comic book superheroes.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2013 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

I know Young definitely wanted to do a CD release for Spider-Man 3 but Sony said that they would only approve one if he removed any indications of Elfman's themes. With Young being a CD producer he didn't cave into that.

Plus Elfman's themes are the back bone of Young's score and it would just be weird not to have them in with the score.

Luckily though a 16 track promo that I got from Young's assistant definitely indicated that it was an aborted OST. It had a lot good highlights from the film.

 
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