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 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Since his Himalayan position as master of franchise sequels is indisputable, which one
of these trinity thrillers would get your definitive vote?



The original "First Blood" has an elegiac, almost haunted musical subtext that in no way diminishes the all-aces action scoring when J.R. (not Ewing wink) turns the bloody tables on his tormentors.



Ours would undeniably go to the gobsmackingly GLOrius "Part Two" with one outstanding set piece after another that runs the rich gamut from pulsating preparation, adrenalin anticipation, potential affection, capture, resurrection and exhilirating culminating codas that are as dynamically dramatic as its final reflective thematic summation.



Part III demonstrates the Gold-Standard's dexterity at weaving atmospheric passages with his usual patented punch (punctuated to perfection in our favorite cue, "The Game"); tho it appears to be wall-to-wall hyperkinetic action, there's so much more to aurally be impressed by.

Then again, his incredible achievement throughout the entire series is a master class from an eternal Master.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Never cared that much about the sequels so it would be the first one. But that was the same year he was nominated for POLTERGEIST and I probably would give it to that one first. But that was one year I was totally happy ET won. Talk about watering down your question.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

smile big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

I consider his Rambo trilogy to be every bit as magnificent as Williams' 80s Indy trio.

Tough to choose, but I would go with 1988's Rambo III. A great mix of orchestra and synths and over 70 minutes long. Even if there is some tracking of the second score into the third film, it's a great capper to his trilogy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I don't think I'd have given an Oscar to any of the Rambo scores.

I'd have unloaded plenty of Oscars on Jerry Goldsmith if I had my way, but for titles like PATTON, CHINATOWN and STAR TREK though, not these.

But if I had to name the best one, I go with the original: FIRST BLOOD.

It's not that I don't think they're great scores, but for me PERSONALLY (and I can't emphasize that word enough) they're not my favorite kind of Goldsmith and they're not my favorite kind of film score. I'd save the Oscars for the things I really, really love.

But that's just me.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I wouldn't categorize the Rambo movies and scores as oscar worthy material and I don't think that was what they were going for. They paid for Jerry Goldsmith's house remember wink

If I would give an award to one of them, it would have to be First Blood, because it set the tone and the theme is just so beautiful. Goldsmith did 90 % of the acting for Stallone who was so disappointed with the movie he wanted to destroy the negatives. I think if ever Goldsmith made a movie work, it has to be First Blood.

Rambo III is my favorite out of the bunch, but First Blood is in a class of its own.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Entr'acte   (Member)

Part II, absolutely. Just an amazing, breathtaking action score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

First Blood. No question about it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

First Blood to me is one of his masterpieces. Every single cue is fantastic. Part 2 is more energetic and I've never warmed up as much to part 3.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Part II, absolutely. Just an amazing, breathtaking action score.

I definitely agree! This score is certainly Oscar worthy, probably the best action score of all time as far as I am concerned. I like First Blood also.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

First Blood. No question about it.

Same here - great score!...:-)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

I don't think I'd have given an Oscar to any of the Rambo scores.

I'd have unloaded plenty of Oscars on Jerry Goldsmith if I had my way, but for titles like PATTON, CHINATOWN and STAR TREK though, not these.

But if I had to name the best one, I go with the original: FIRST BLOOD.

It's not that I don't think they're great scores, but for me PERSONALLY (and I can't emphasize that word enough) they're not my favorite kind of Goldsmith and they're not my favorite kind of film score. I'd save the Oscars for the things I really, really love.

But that's just me.

Cheers


Agree completely. I couldn't have said it any better.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Another vote for Part II....

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I don't think I'd have given an Oscar to any of the Rambo scores.

I'd have unloaded plenty of Oscars on Jerry Goldsmith if I had my way, but for titles like PATTON, CHINATOWN and STAR TREK though, not these.

But if I had to name the best one, I go with the original: FIRST BLOOD.

It's not that I don't think they're great scores, but for me PERSONALLY (and I can't emphasize that word enough) they're not my favorite kind of Goldsmith and they're not my favorite kind of film score. I'd save the Oscars for the things I really, really love.

But that's just me.

Cheers


Agree completely. I couldn't have said it any better.


Me too!

There were numerous times Jerry was robbed of an Oscar but I don't think the Rambo scores were any of those occassions. They're great scores but to me personally fall in the middle of his canon at best.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2013 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Sorry. Double post.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

The Rambo scores is the best music Goldsmith ever did (along with Total Recall) and the track Escape from Torture on Rambo First blood Part 2 is i.m.o the best track Goldsmith ever did, so I think I have to go with part 2 (even if First Blood is the better movie)

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

FIRST BLOOD.

Not only is it the foundation for all the sequels, it is IMO also the most haunting score of them all. Probably because the film was the best of the series, by far.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Rambo: First Blood Part II

Hell, throw in a Best Original Song award too just to make Frank happy!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

First Blood is a brilliant score, as Neo said, with a lovely haunted quality - complex and thrilling. It is as good or better than the majority of Oscar winners in the last few years.

Part 2 is an almost non-stop thrill ride with some wonderfully propulsive action cues, a hugely enjoyable album. Rambo 3 is a favorite of mine, beginning with a slow burn and building to some rich, intense action with a wonderful finale cue ( replaced in the film by a horrid, horrid song ) .

All three have their moments of incomparable fury and beauty, all three are standout works, but I'd say First Blood would have been most deserving of an Oscar.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2013 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   Marlene   (Member)

First Blood. For sure.

I once owned the Silva Screen CD of Rambo II. I sold it, I felt it was the wrong score for me. I own the first release of Rambo III but I´ve never actually listened to it.

 
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