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 Posted:   Aug 10, 2013 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   Chickenhearted   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2013 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Well, she's THE GIRL OF THE GOLDEN WEST and ROSE MARIE and NAUGHTY MARIETTA all rolled into one!

William Tuttle, one of Hollywood's great make-up men, once said that, in person, this was the most beautiful woman he'd ever met.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2013 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

Well, she's THE GIRL OF THE GOLDEN WEST and ROSE MARIE and NAUGHTY MARIETTA all rolled into one!

The last one has its two directors uncredited ! First time I've ever seen such a strange thing.


William Tuttle, one of Hollywood's great make-up men, once said that, in person, this was the most beautiful woman he'd ever met.

Well, regarding beauty, the guy knew a lot about it...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2013 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Well, she's THE GIRL OF THE GOLDEN WEST and ROSE MARIE and NAUGHTY MARIETTA all rolled into one!

The last one has its two directors uncredited ! First time I've ever seen such a strange thing.....



Well....yes and no.

NAUGHTY MARIETTA's main title has a major single-card credit (in director position) as "A W. S. VAN DYKE Production". Van Dyke was, of course, the director of record for the film, and I think this kind of credit was believed to be, at the time, far more prestigious than simply a "Directed by" credit. In much later years directors started claiming not only this credit---"A George Stevens Production", but an additional credit as well, "Directed by George Stevens"---all on the same picture. The "uncredited" director you make reference to, Robert Z. Leonard, apparently only worked on MARIETTA for very few days at the beginning of production before he pulled out. This happens regularly in Hollywood where various people work on a film, but often only one is credited---usually the one with the best contract or the most work in the finished film.

If you want a far better example of your "no screen credit" point, how about MGM's DESIRE ME, the Greer Garson/Robert Mitchum film of 1947. Though primarily directed by George Cukor, he demanded his name be taken off the film, which it was, and the film carried NO director credit at all (.....the producer was Arthur Hornblow, Jr.). But, in addition to Cukor, at least 3 other major directors apparently contributed to the cause: Mervyn LeRoy, Jack Conway, and Victor Saville --- all without credit, too! (I think most of these directors came to believe that having no credit on this film was a major positive help to their careers and resumes!!! )

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2013 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

.....Well, she's THE GIRL OF THE GOLDEN WEST and ROSE MARIE and NAUGHTY MARIETTA all rolled into one!

The last one has its two directors uncredited ! First time I've ever seen such a strange thing.....

Well....yes and no.

NAUGHTY MARIETTA's main title has a major single-card credit (in director position) as "A W. S. VAN DYKE Production". Van Dyke was, of course, the director of record for the film, and I think this kind of credit was believed to be, at the time, far more prestigious than simply a "Directed by" credit. In much later years directors started claiming not only this credit---"A George Stevens Production", but an additional credit as well, "Directed by George Stevens"---all on the same picture. The "uncredited" director you make reference to, Robert Z. Leonard, apparently only worked on MARIETTA for very few days at the beginning of production before he pulled out. This happens regularly in Hollywood where various people work on a film, but often only one is credited---usually the one with the best contract or the most work in the finished film.



Yes, I believe too that for a musical movie the word "production" would have a far greater impact : it would link the movie to the prestigious musical stage shows of the earlier century.






If you want a far better example of your "no screen credit" point, how about MGM's DESIRE ME, the Greer Garson/Robert Mitchum film of 1947. Though primarily directed by George Cukor, he demanded his name be taken off the film, which it was, and the film carried NO director credit at all (.....the producer was Arthur Hornblow, Jr.). But, in addition to Cukor, at least 3 other major directors apparently contributed to the cause: Mervyn LeRoy, Jack Conway, and Victor Saville --- all without credit, too! (I think most of these directors came to believe that having no credit on this film was a major positive help to their careers and resumes!!! )


Thanks for the info. Never heard about this one before and I like this kind of anecdotes ! smile
Pretty good directors on the row, though...

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2013 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

NAUGHTY MARIETTA's main title has a major single-card credit (in director position) as "A W. S. VAN DYKE Production". Van Dyke was, of course, the director of record for the film, and I think this kind of credit was believed to be, at the time, far more prestigious than simply a "Directed by" credit.

Just as RAIN carries only "A Lewis Milestone Production" but not a subsequent "Directed by" credit.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2013 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Chickenhearted   (Member)

Well, she's THE GIRL OF THE GOLDEN WEST and ROSE MARIE and NAUGHTY MARIETTA all rolled into one!

William Tuttle, one of Hollywood's great make-up men, once said that, in person, this was the most beautiful woman he'd ever met.


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2013 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Is Janette MacDonald related to Jeanette MacDonald?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2013 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

Is Janette MacDonald related to Jeanette MacDonald?

Or to Ronald ?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2013 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I've heard that.....

When Jeanette's father got older, he had a farm. smile smile

Jeanette used to sing "Gianinna Mia" to the chickens. smile



Naw....not true.....but.....

Her sister, also in showbusiness, was originally called "Blossom MacDonald" in vaudeville days, then "Marie Blake" in the movies from late '30s to early '50s, then "Blossom Rock" (the "Rock" was her husband's last name)..... Blossom Rock appeared as "Grandmama" in THE ADDAMS FAMILY tv series.

 
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