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 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I know that it is very short, but how does the CD of the Project 3 albums compare sonically to the expanded CD?

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

It wasn't that bad -- for an vinyl-rip wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

The Project 3 has more reverb than the Varese, and less noise reduction than the Intrada.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

seriously, the Project 3 CD was ripped from vinyl?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

What is the Intrada version? I've never seen that.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   stroppy   (Member)

I treasure the LP recording he signed for me in Melbourne when he came here to lecture in 1983.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

What is the Intrada version? I've never seen that.

It was a 1992 remastering of the old LP program, to which was added the cue "The Hunt."

Intrada FMT 8006D

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I've got that Intrada too. The inlay has a commentary by F.J. Schaffner (or so I think), in which he describes Goldsmith's style as being 'aped' thereafter smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   mstanwick856   (Member)

Can anyone tell me which is the most complete CD?

I have the Varese.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

Reading some of the answers I wonder if any has really heard the Project 3-CD. The CD came out in the 80ies and was one of the most atrocious sounding CDs I've ever heard. The sound was so heavily filtered that it was muffled and without any dynamics all over the way. There even was a fade-in at the beginning, cutting off the first one or two notes of the "Main Title".

Years later, there was a CD from SLC Japan. This one was taken from an LP - with all crackle and pops. But soundwise much better than the Project 3-CD.

The best CD is the Varèse and it's still available. And complete. No need to search for any other former issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   Atham   (Member)

I treasure the LP recording he signed for me in Melbourne when he came here to lecture in 1983.

Wow, I would have loved to have met him! I remember when he came to Melbourne. He was a guest on the Don Lane show. I remember he said he was not too well due to food poisoning. I used to have that interview on video tape.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   stroppy   (Member)

I treasure the LP recording he signed for me in Melbourne when he came here to lecture in 1983.

Wow, I would have loved to have met him! I remember when he came to Melbourne. He was a guest on the Don Lane show. I remember he said he was not too well due to food poisoning. I used to have that interview on video tape.


Atham...he gave an excellent lecture at the Melbourne State Film Theatre which, in those days, was near what was to become the new Peter Mac Cancer Hospital in East Melbourne. During the lecture he showed clips of the then upcoming Twilight Zone movie and explained how he developed the themes for each segment. It really was a revealing look at how he came up with his musical ideas. I also remember that he tried to downplay all the praise he received for ST-TMP's score but people just kept praising the music so much he actually appeared quite humbled and embarrassed.

Anyway, at the conclusion of the lecture the theatre manager provided light refreshments and a chance for people to mingle in the theatre foyer. Some fans, myself included, had brought along LPs of various soundtracks he had written for him to sign which he graciously consented to. Two people in the line, me and another fellow, had LPs of the POTA soundtrack. He was surprised and exclaimed, "Where did you dig these up from?" What I didn't know at the time (1983) was that the LP had become as scarce as hen's teeth so he was genuinely surprised to see newly printed album being presented for him to sign. Looking back I wish I had taken my TMP LP in to sign as well!

My brother often asks me if the signed POTA album is worth anything... well you guys, is it? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Reading some of the answers I wonder if any has really heard the Project 3-CD. The CD came out in the 80ies and was one of the most atrocious sounding CDs I've ever heard. The sound was so heavily filtered that it was muffled and without any dynamics all over the way. There even was a fade-in at the beginning, cutting off the first one or two notes of the "Main Title".

Years later, there was a CD from SLC Japan. This one was taken from an LP - with all crackle and pops. But soundwise much better than the Project 3-CD.

The best CD is the Varèse and it's still available. And complete. No need to search for any other former issue.


Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

I ask because expansions don't necessarily offer better sound than earlier album-length incarnations, Herrmann's "Vertigo" being one example.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Even though it's never been out-of-print, I think it's about time Varese reissue this CD. The suite from ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES is no longer necessary, and there are now digital wonders that could further enhance the sonics of PLANET's original session recordings, the track of "The Seachers" isn't the same mix heard in the film's soundtrack, and although most people seem to prefer the French poster used for the cover, PLANET is such an American film in energy and outlook that I feel Intrada had the right idea with their CD's artwork. I also wonder if there's any alternate takes or bits and pieces of business in the vaults that could be released as extras. I'd also like to see and read more extensive liner notes about what is one of the more important scores in all the history of American motion pictures.

With a new and highly anticipated APES sequel coming out next year, Varese should consider a sequel of there own.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

...The suite from ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES is no longer necessary...

How so?

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Maybe because it was released in complete version since?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Maybe because it was released in complete version since?

Not all of us spend $20 on every 30-minute album ever made, especially if we already own 15 minutes of that music. An overpriced limited edition does not make the suite superfluous.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Nexus 6   (Member)

Maybe because it was released in complete version since?

Not all of us spend $20 on every 30-minute album ever made, especially if we already own 15 minutes of that music. An overpriced limited edition does not make the suite superfluous.


Well, you should shell out money in this particular instance. I'll give you three reasons:

1) Escape is not overpriced.
2) It is a wonderful score.
3) Jerry Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

The score to PLANET OF THE APES deserves to be presented on its own. It's a significant, landmark score and it needs no addendum or footnote. I feel it's kind of an insult to the original score that the ESCAPE suite is even there -- and I think Goldsmith would agree. If I were the producer of a new CD, I wouldn't even mention the "lesser APES" in the liner notes!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



Well, you should shell out money in this particular instance. I'll give you three reasons:

1) Escape is not overpriced.
2) It is a wonderful score.
3) Jerry Goldsmith.


When I can find virtually every Blue Note album on CD for 4 or 5 bucks - with bonus tracks - $20 for 15 minutes' worth of music is overpriced, Goldsmith or not.

I'll happily keep the suite.

 
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