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General Discussion: "The Quiet Man" - Victor Young

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	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 5:30 PM
	By:	edwzoomom (Member)

I listened to this score today and marvelled at what a beautiful score this is and further what a marvelous movie it is from. The gorgeous and classy Maureen O'Hara, dapper John Wayne and one of my favorites - Barry Fitzgerald. This brought back such amazing memories. Victor Young was such a prolific composer, contributing so much to the world of film, Broadway and popular music.

This brings me to one of my biggest fears - that the music of this generation of composers like Young (to name a few others: Herrmann, Bernstein, Newman, Korngold, Rozsa, Tiomkin, Allwyn, Steiner, Friedhofer, Kaper, Auric, Mockridge, Waxman, Stromberg, Raksin, Skinner, Harline - okay more than a few) is going to be forgotten by the next generation when the lp and cd medium we buy and barter is replaced by something even more intangible than digital. This would truly be a joyless world for the film music lover.

I hope this fear of mine never takes place.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 7:32 PM
	By:	dan the man (Member)

Yes a great score from a great composer who sadly died much to young. Was still very active till the end. But he left a lot for us to hear.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 8:59 PM
	By:	joan hue (Member)

edwzooman, this is a film score board, and I hate to break it to you, but there are many people on THIS board who have never heard music by the composers you've listed. Some just refuse to listen to composers from the "Golden Age." However, there are some "youngers" on this board that are familiar with older composers and their music. To be fair, some people on this board won't listen to anything composed after the 60's. I just wish we all would listen to past and present composers.

The Quiet Man is a delightful score composed by Victor Young. (Not our current Christopher Young.) It can be funny and jaunty and then serious and dramatic. Everyone should watch this movie which often plays on TCM. It is a classic. Great movie married to a great score.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 9:12 PM
	By:	Basil Wrathbone (Member)

I hate to break it to you, but there are many people on THIS board who have never heard music by the composers you've listed. .

Can't blame them for that, seeing how all our so-called specialist labels combined have failed to give us even one legitimate original soundtrack by Skinner during the entire history of CD.
There's more chance of them having heard a Yeti howling outside their front door, than hearing a legitimate Skinner original soundtrack CD.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 9:30 PM
	By:	dan the man (Member)

There is good music to be heard in any era, it's a shame.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 10:25 PM
	By:	joan hue (Member)

You are right, Basil. I never have seen a Skinner release. However, many of the other composers she listed have had many of their scores released over the years by various labels.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 10:47 PM
	By:	TerraEpon (Member)

edwzooman, this is a film score board, and I hate to break it to you, but there are many people on THIS board who have never heard music by the composers you've listed. Some just refuse to listen to composers from the "Golden Age."

To be fair, it often seems like a lot of people are just as pigheaded against listening to newer music.


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 10:52 PM
	By:	SchiffyM (Member)

I find it a bit odd that this last decade or so has brought us unprecedented riches from almost all of the composers listed -- releases that even a few years before would have seemed absolutely impossible -- and yet with this comes the lamenting that soon nobody will care.

I honestly don't know what the medium has to do with it. Music itself is intangible. I don't care whether I'm hearing it on a wax cylinder, a computer chip, or beamed to me from a virtual cloud -- if the music moves me, why should I?


	Posted:	Sep 2, 2013 - 11:28 PM
	By:	Octoberman (Member)

I find it a bit odd that this last decade or so has brought us unprecedented riches from almost all of the composers listed -- releases that even a few years before would have seemed absolutely impossible -- and yet with this comes the lamenting that soon nobody will care.

Lamenting? That's how you see the OP comments? Funny, looked like merely "musing" to me.

I honestly don't know what the medium has to do with it. Music itself is intangible. I don't care whether I'm hearing it on a wax cylinder, a computer chip, or beamed to me from a virtual cloud -- if the music moves me, why should I?

Some of us do care about the medium. If you personally don't, more power to ya!


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2013 - 12:06 AM
	By:	SchiffyM (Member)

I didn't mean "lamenting" to be a dig. I just meant that all things are fleeting, but the really stand-out things tend to stick around.

As for the medium mattering, obviously what's important to you may not be to me, and that's fine. But I don't see why discovering Herrmann (say) on a streaming site (for instance) would be a barrier to appreciating his music. Quite the contrary, it might allow a new fan to feast on his music, rather than be discouraged trying to track down expensive CDs.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2013 - 12:43 AM
	By:	Regie (Member)

Don't know "The Quiet Man" but this is most definitely my favourite score by Victor Young, "Rio Grande". Duke Wayne paid tribute to Young at the Oscars in 1979, as I recall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zsn0OfBiqs

It's absolutely beautiful and full of pathos and grandeur. Will I ever forget the scene in the film where Maureen O'Hara goes out to meet John Wayne, who is lying on a stretcher and being dragged along by a horse after being wounded in battle. She holds his hand and the camera follows them both back into the barracks, with Claude Jarmain following closely behind. Very affecting. The best of Ford's 'cavalry trilogy' IMO.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2013 - 6:58 AM
	By:	joan hue (Member)

TerraEpon, you are correct. If you reread my first message, you'll see that I said the same thing. Both older and younger members are depriving themselves of good listening.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2013 - 8:34 PM
	By:	philiperic (Member)

You are right, Basil. I never have seen a Skinner release. However, many of the other composers she listed have had many of their scores released over the years by various labels.

Four of Skinner's scores were released last year by a French label - IMITATION OF LIFE, INTERLUDE, WRITTEN ON THE WIND and MAN OF A 1000 FACES - For a while , SAE carried both cds. They were not boots but considered "grey market" . Since they were over 50 yrs old, Cinemusique was able to release them from the best sources available to them -- vinyl.


	Posted:	Sep 4, 2013 - 12:23 PM
	By:	John Rokesmith (Member)

It is a pity that comparatively few of his scores are available. He had a very distinctive voice and a supreme sense of melody. The Quiet Man is certainly among his best scores. Others I am tremendously fond of are Samson and Delilah, Rio Grande, The Uninvited, Run of the Arrow and Johnny Guitar.

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