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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2013 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/24002795

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Good for them!

Curiously, this event hasn't been covered in Norwegian media.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

It was covered in the Spanish media to the point of exasperation. Every news programme devoted its first half hour to how "we" were on the point of making a historic moment yet again. They had done montages of how the new installations would change the landscape of Madrid, create billions of jobs, and set the country back on its feet forever.

Oh well, what a shame. Congrats to Tokyo. Back to real life.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

It was covered in the Spanish media to the point of exasperation. Every news programme devoted its first half hour to how "we" were on the point of making a historic moment yet again. They had done montages of how the new installations would change the landscape of Madrid, create billions of jobs, and set the country back on its feet forever.


Surely you don't believe this? Who's to say it wont set your country back forever? It's not always a huge success financially.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I didn't believe a word of it, Francis. That was my point.

By the way, they're STILL on about it - I've just watched, incredulous, the midday news. Yesterday it was half an hour of people celebrating the "win", today it was half an hour of shots of people crying in the streets of Madrid. Interviews with five-year-old children: "How do you feel?" "Sad". Lengthy reports about how we had come so far.

Then the newsreader said, "Oh well, life goes on. Now, Syria..." That lasted 30 seconds, then it was time for the weather forecast.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

The '12 Olympics provided a massive boost the the UK's economy so given the fiscal state of Spain at the moment it is understandable the Spanish were gutted they lost out.

From a personal point of view Japan being 8 hours ahead of GMT means a lot of stuff will not be seen live here.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I actually wondered about that, Mike J. Apart from in the short-term, did the London Olympics really give a huge boost to the UK economy? I've read conflicting reports about how the money was invested and its results.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I think - bearing in mind that we are only a little over a year from the closing of the games - that the cost and benefit is still being counted...also, bearing in mind, that such offshoots as the Anniversary Games have only just happened.

Of course, not every benefit will be economic...speaking purely anecdotally, there does seem to have been a small wind of change towards the optimistic since the games...2012 was a good year to be a Brit...

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Spain is broke. Turkey has Erdogan.

So the vote went for Japan.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

People still care about this great money waster event??

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I remember GREECE was not to happy about the end results of their OLYMPICS years ago.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

The host city generally loses money on the whole proposition, in the end.
I can't imagine any city that would want it, at this point. The whole organization is corrupt and most of the athletes are juicing, anyway (which is fine with me, just don't bother keeping score).


There is an idea I whole-heatedly approve of:
Build a state-of-the-art sports complex in Greece. Have it overseen by the IOC.

My personal vision of this continues:
Every 4 yrs a new country is picked to host the event. They pay for any refurbishment or upgrades of the facilities for those games. They also redecorate to reflect their Home Country.
When the Games happen there are Host-Country-Specific events in Greece and the Home Country. Lots of cultural stuff in Greece and at Home. Food, music, arts-related stuff.
The Home Country also sets up free viewing centers in their cities so that anyone can see any of the games live via satellite. Big, open places with video screens for every event.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2013 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Drawgoon   (Member)

Excellent choice! There's gonna be some memorable opening/closing ceremony to look forward to now.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Juan Carlos García Cortés   (Member)

I am one of those here in Spain that I didn't want the Games in Madrid. That money should invested in things more important.

However I understand the sadness in Madrid.
During the last 20 years the city has invested a lot of money in the games with the 80% of the structures already built. Don't forget, this is the third consecutive time that Madrid tries to get the Games, so a lot of people though this time Madrid was going to win. They were wrong.

Madrid will continue to be one the greatest European cities without the Games.

Congratulations to Tokyo!

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I didn't believe a word of it, Francis. That was my point.


Oh ok, read over that I guess smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

Meanwhile in Greece 9 (8 on pictures) years later.
http://www.businessinsider.com/2004-athens-olympics-venues-abandoned-today-photos-2012-8?op=1

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Congrats Tokyo. Good luck.



"Ah ha! You build... stadium... now!!!"


Sorry, sorry everyone, sorry. I couldnt resist.

Okay, I'll get down to sick bay for my obvious-gag and malaria tablets...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2013 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Jon C   (Member)

There is an idea I whole-heatedly approve of:
Build a state-of-the-art sports complex in Greece. Have it overseen by the IOC.

My personal vision of this continues:
Every 4 yrs a new country is picked to host the event. They pay for any refurbishment or upgrades of the facilities for those games. They also redecorate to reflect their Home Country.
When the Games happen there are Host-Country-Specific events in Greece and the Home Country. Lots of cultural stuff in Greece and at Home. Food, music, arts-related stuff.
The Home Country also sets up free viewing centers in their cities so that anyone can see any of the games live via satellite. Big, open places with video screens for every event.


As much as I love Greece, its not going to happen. I can just see the the IOC demanding higher and higher fees for the "upgrades" and what country is going to spend the massive amounts of money when it is in another country. At least in England (or Barcelona, Salt Lake City, or whatever) the construction effects will last for years to come. So in essence your idea is for a bribe to happen but the host country does not get anything out of it except the title "host."

I'm sure Greece would love it though. Millions visiting every four years, construction work being continually updated (i.e. people employed constantly) a no-lose proposition for them. All without the country paying a dime.

 
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