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 Posted:   Sep 11, 2013 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

How do you feel about the film and the score from "The Gambler"?





| Three Reasons: the gambler |





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Reason only satisfies Man's rational requirements.
Desire, on the other hand, encompasses everything.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2013 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I've never seen the film and I haven't actually listened to my CD of the recent release yet.
I also have the suite from the old Bay Cities Fielding promo and played it a few times, but the blocky/lengthy suite presentation never really clicked with me.
The new release seems a lot more user friendly and also has some extra/original score tracks by Fielding. I'm sure I will get around to it sooner or later.
Okay, let's hope someone who HAS played the new CD will chime in now.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2013 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Likewise - I've never seen the film at all; I'd not even heard of it until I saw the occasional mentions on this very forum.

My exposure to the score comes mainly from the Suite that was included on the third Fielding/Bay Cities promo disc, and to be honest it wasn't really my cup of tea. Consequently, I didn't buy the recent full release I'm afraid....

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Quartet release is amazing not only for the alternates (love Finale A) but also for Source Music.
Moreover the sound is better than B.C.
Bottom line: a must have for Fielding fans

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Bottom line: a must have for Fielding fans

A must have, absolutely. This is Fielding as good as it gets. Full of his artistic integrity and mastery. The adaptations are done with great taste and blend well with Fieldings original voice. I also love the bonus material and all that source stuff.

Quartet's score presentation and the booklet notes have for me the quality of the good old days of the FSM label! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

"Quartet's score presentation and the booklet notes have for me the quality of the good old days of the FSM label"
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Agreed!
They are one label who I make a point of taking the time to listen to the music and read the notes at the same time, a ritual I used to do with FSM titles. I also read their booklets on numerous occasions. I'm happy that Quartet are keeping that particular flame burning.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

How do you feel about the film and the score from "The Gambler"?
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And yet not one word about Gustav Mahler, whose music is so important in "The Gambler" and which, I'm sure, we hear more of in this movie than the music of Fielding. Long a fan of Mahler and especially his 1st symphony, I was startled when I first saw this wrenching drama in 1974 to hear big chunks of that favorite symphony. I just put on my DVD of it to confirm that this WAS the movie that used so much of Mahler's 1st and it was. And while it was nice to see several actors who are no longer with us, it remains a grim story of a compulsive and self-destructive gambler throwing away an otherwise productive life and great family. But no mention here of Mahler, whose music has long been heard on film soundtracks like Visconti's "Death In Venice" and Karel Reisz's "The Gambler."

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

The video may not go into Mahler, but I assure you -- the liner notes for the Quartet release definitely do. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: The video may not go into Mahler, but I assure you -- the liner notes for the Quartet release definitely do. smile

I was referring to the lack of any mention of Mahler's music in that film and the focus here solely on Fielding -- if you saw "The Gambler" and weren't familiar with Mahler's 1st symphony, you'd think Fielding had done all of it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2013 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Re: The video may not go into Mahler, but I assure you -- the liner notes for the Quartet release definitely do. smile

I was referring to the lack of any mention of Mahler's music in that film and the focus here solely on Fielding -- if you saw "The Gambler" and were familiar with Mahler's 1st symphony, you'd think HE had done it. But he died in 1911.


But all of Mahler's music is used in new adaptations by Fielding with different orchesterations. It's not like they used simply a recording of the symphony by Leonard Bernstein or Bruno Walter in the picture...

And there's still enough original Fielding on this splendid disc. Fielding's Mahler adaptations were done with much taste, skill and his usual artistic integrity. Nothing wrong here!

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2013 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: "But all of Mahler's music is used in new adaptations by Fielding with different orchestrations."

Well, if that's true, you got me, because I was sure that they had just played actual performances from the symphony. It isn't like what Rick Wakeman did with chunks of Dvorák's 9th symphony for Ken Russell's mad "Crimes of Passion." And while we're on this subject, what about Bill Conti's use of one of the biggest themes from Tchaikovsky's violin concerto as HIS main theme in "The Right Stuff"? I think that THAT would be a good topic for a separate discussion, which I'm going to start right now. Please look for it.

 
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