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 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

http://www.sfgate.com/tv/article/TV-docu-examines-NFL-s-slow-response-to-4874173.php

Quarterback Steve Young shown lying on the field, injured, in his last game. Young retired due to repeated concussions.

I also look at that picture and wonder why he's alone.

Do players just walk away from someone fallen? It just looks so sad.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Reminds me of a couple of security camera videos you can find on Youtube where people get hit by a car, fly up into the air, land on the street and the driver just keeps on going. Meanwhile nobody will go help the people. They just keep walking, some people don't even look. I recall one of the two struck, died.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Reminds me of a couple of security camera videos you can find on Youtube where people get hit by a car, fly up into the air, land on the street and the driver just keeps on going. Meanwhile nobody will go help the people. They just keep walking, some people don't even look. I recall one of the two struck, died.

I think too much is made of that. Unless you are a doctor, nurse or paramedic what are you to do? If fact trying to help might injure them further. People should stop traffic (if they can safely) and call for help of course.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Reminds me of a couple of security camera videos you can find on Youtube where people get hit by a car, fly up into the air, land on the street and the driver just keeps on going. Meanwhile nobody will go help the people. They just keep walking, some people don't even look. I recall one of the two struck, died.

I think too much is made of that. Unless you are a doctor, nurse or paramedic what are you to do? If fact trying to help might injure them further. People should stop traffic (if they can safely) and call for help of course.


Yeah, they could have done that, at a minimum, but they didn't even do that. Anything is better than the nothing that was done. I think I know recall that one of them was hit again, and still nobody did anything.


EDIT:
This isn't one of them, but it's deeply disturbing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVYUzHc5L8

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I also look at that picture and wonder why he's alone.

Do players just walk away from someone fallen? It just looks so sad.


I don't recall that particular incident (although I probably saw it because I was still heavy into football at the time and the 49ers are my favorite team), but I've seen enough football games in my life, and players always rush over when they see a teammate lying injured. No doubt that picture was just snapped in a split second before others got to him.

I think too much is made of that. Unless you are a doctor, nurse or paramedic what are you to do?

You can at least check on them to make sure they're okay and whatnot. To see a fellow human have such an accident and just walk away is, well, inhuman. A couple years ago while driving to town, my mom and I rounded a corner in the country and came upon an accident that had just happened. A guy on a motorcycle wiped out, and another vehicle had stopped and the occupants were calling emergency services. The guy was lying on the shoulder of the road and starting to panic, wanting to get up, but we did our best to calm him and keep him from moving in case he had anything broken.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

This was one of the videos I was thinking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyVXywiO0h8

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I also look at that picture and wonder why he's alone.

Do players just walk away from someone fallen? It just looks so sad.


I don't recall that particular incident (although I probably saw it because I was still heavy into football at the time and the 49ers are my favorite team), but I've seen enough football games in my life, and players always rush over when they see a teammate lying injured. No doubt that picture was just snapped in a split second before others got to him.

I think too much is made of that. Unless you are a doctor, nurse or paramedic what are you to do?

You can at least check on them to make sure they're okay and whatnot. To see a fellow human have such an accident and just walk away is, well, inhuman.


Yes, but it depends on the situation. If there are 50 bystanders should they all rush up and help? Might that make the situation worse? Maybe those 50 think someone else will help so everyone hesitates, or already called for help? I would not try to play doctor as I am not a doctor. But I do agree in some instances a bystander should act- if someone is drowning and your standing on the beach with a life vest or a rope you should toss them a safety line.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

The saddest picture you have ever seen? Really? You must have had a very protected life.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I guess he lives in a cave.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Well some of these sports have a no touch until a doctor looks at them policy. There is always that chance someone will think they are helping by trying to make the person more comfortable and then accidentally killing them.

Given how tight that photo is, I doubt he was simply abandoned though.



edit: just found this video which does show his team mates checking on him. In fact, one of them moves him, which like I said is actually dangerous.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

The saddest picture you have ever seen? Really? You must have had a very protected life.

I saw this photo taken in Syria a few days ago. It filled me with sorrow and anger in equal measure. But then I quickly forgot about it and went to Starbucks. That's just the way things are, right?...

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

http://www.sfgate.com/tv/article/TV-docu-examines-NFL-s-slow-response-to-4874173.php

Quarterback Steve Young shown lying on the field, injured, in his last game. Young retired due to repeated concussions.


THAT's your saddest picture? Wow.

Mine was a still of a boy looking down upon the body of a drowned, bloated naked baby after a flood in Bangladesh. It was published in Time Magazine sometime in the 1980s. Haunts me still.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO THOMAS- Yes that is the way things are, but you don't have to travel all the way to SYRIA to realize that is the way things are. Just walk down the block.

 
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