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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2009 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)







Revisited this on DVD after not having seen it since it premiered in '93. I must say, it really holds up. Debney's score is a delightful thrill ride. The film is still highly entertaining and visually well done. Midler, Najimy & Parker's chemistry and comedy was, if you'll pardon the expression, bewitchingly funny. I hope people look back upon this film fondly as well as the score.



"Shiskababy!"

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2009 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

Man, did I have a crush on Vinessa Shaw back then!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2009 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

The Roxette song ALMOST UNREAL was intended for this film but ended up in SUPER MARIO BROS (both were Beuna Vista productions). Roxette were apparently furious.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I am sure I saw a song credited to James Horner and the same guy who wrote lyrics to the ludlows theme in Legends Of The Fall. Was Horner originally on this score and did he do some pre-production work? If he was on the score why did he leave it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I am sure I saw a song credited to James Horner and the same guy who wrote lyrics to the ludlows theme in Legends Of The Fall. Was Horner originally on this score and did he do some pre-production work? If he was on the score why did he leave it?

Amazing what you can find when you look on imdb:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107120/soundtrack

"I Put a Spell on You"
Produced and Arranged by Marc Shaiman


"Sarah's Theme"
Music by James Horner
Lyrics by Brock Walsh



"I Put a Spell on You"
Written by Jay Hawkins
Performed by Bette Midler


"Witchcraft"
Written by Cy Coleman, Carolyn Leigh
Performed by Joe Malone


"I Put a Spell on You"
Written by Jay Hawkins
Performed by Joe Malone


"Sabre Dance"
Written by George Wilson
Courtesy of Associated Production Music


"Chants and Incantations"
Conceived and written by Brock Walsh


"Come Little Children"
Performed by Sarah Jessica Parker

James

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Surprising they didn't use "Hocus Pocus" by Dutch prog band FOCUS (lol)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Yes you are right...didn't think of looking there- they are most reliable!!!!

Thanks for letting me know - still would like to find out the history of Horner's involvement.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Yes you are right...didn't think of looking there- they are most reliable!!!!

Thanks for letting me know - still would like to find out the history of Horner's involvement.


FSM's own (old) print pages discussed the "Hocus Pocus" composer situation a bit (and Ford in an old rec.music.movies post, http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.movies/browse_frm/thread/aac78eb3f7bba307/ ).

Horner was originally on this project but because of scheduling delays had to depart it. But because songs are often written/recorded in advance if on-screen lip-sync'ing has to be done to their playback or they're centrepieces involving moving the plot along, the song stuff with Horner and Brock Walsh was completed and remains as part of the picture.

I remember reading something by our own Lukas to the effect that producers approached Horner about who he'd recommend to score it since he had to leave the project and he recommended Rachel Portman. I distinctly remember reading that Portman screened the film to that point but "had no idea about how to score it" and couldn't quite get into its uneasy tone (dark horror? comedy? kiddie flick? 'Nightmare Before Christmas' macabre thing?) and when they returned to Horner to ask again, he recommended Debney.

By the way, if you search the ASCAP database, ACE ( http://www.ascap.com/ace/ ) for "Horner James" under "Writers", and click-through, you will see an entry for "Hocus Pocus cues". But sometimes the ASCAP listing is overly general or really just references song snippets (like in and out of a song) so it shouldn't be taken literally as a count of any cues he may have written or if so, what remains in the film.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

Great little score that works like gangbusters in the film.

Hopefully Intrada can wave their magic wand and conjure up a CD version!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2009 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I have the promo, and it's a fun score although not terribly original. I think I saw the film once...not good.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

I have the promo, and it's a fun score although not terribly original. I think I saw the film once...not good.

Is there a surefire way to tell the promo from an unmentionable?
Bought one on eBay recently and I just don't know...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I have the promo, and it's a fun score although not terribly original. I think I saw the film once...not good.

Is there a surefire way to tell the promo from an unmentionable?
Bought one on eBay recently and I just don't know...


The promo says that it is a promo on the back side. I assume the regular CD doesn't.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)


The promo says that it is a promo on the back side.


Hmmm. Mine does. Still have a weird feeling about it. If it's an unmentionable, it's the most professionally done I've ever seen. My gut feeling is that it's a copy of the promo done by somebody who has the ability to press, not burn, small runs of cds. No way to be sure, I guess.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

Haven't seen this since it came out - remember feeling so-so regards the film, but loving the score and looking for a release... which never came out.

I second the notion of Intrada getting this out one of these days (perhaps unlikely with Bette, Sarah and Cathy singing away, and all those songs...).

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Debney actually makes use of Horner's song melody in his underscore; it shows up quite a bit in the film mix and the unmentionable that I've heard.

I think that may be why it's never gotten a legitimate release; the rights must surely be very complicated (to say nothing of the fact that performer rights from the movie's leads probably factor in as well).

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2011 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Hocus Pocus needs a release. It's a stunningly fun score and has some very beautiful, tender moments.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

People have made dozens and dozens of YouTube videos with their own performances of Horner's song, but of course most assume Debney wrote it.

The music for it is very mystical, and I can't really think of another Horner score to relate it to.

It's a perfect "karaoke" track since so much room is left for a lyric or a solo instrument to play the main melody.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Debney gave me away some years ago something called "The Score Archive". It contains 38 tracks (with variations on some cues) in 52 minutes. Does anybody knows anything about this?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   reneintoys   (Member)

Debney gave me away some years ago something called "The Score Archive". It contains 38 tracks (with variations on some cues) in 52 minutes. Does anybody knows anything about this?

Do you have any pictures to share this with us?

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2011 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I could, but it's basically a promo with nothing but white background and titles. No art.

 
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