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 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 12:41 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

Considering as Jan Hammer - Miami Vice: The Complete Collection, is absolutely not complete and disc 2 of the set is build up with all newly recorded materials i am wandering if it is possible to release a remastered and really complete boxset (the Jan Hammer parts on the old cd's has a really bad soundquality)
Done the same way like the X-files boxsets for instance, that would be awsome

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, I would definitely be up for a volume 2 of the 2CD set, which is one of my dearest CD sets. Especially if it's done the same way.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Considering as Jan Hammer - Miami Vice: The Complete Collection, is absolutely not complete and disc 2 of the set is build up with all newly recorded materials i am wandering if it is possible to release a remastered and really complete boxset (the Jan Hammer parts on the old cd's has a really bad soundquality)
Done the same way like the X-files boxsets for instance, that would be awsome


I wouldn't hold my breath. Seriously, I wouldn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

I'll stick my neck out and say; It'll never happen.

Like myself, anyone that's emailed Jan Hammer's management about the potential release of further music is given the same stock answer; Jan just doesn't feel like he can release what he considers background music that doesn't form proper tracks (I'm clearly paraphrasing, the response went along those lines).

Sorry, but that's B.S. Cover artists like Rick Leon have managed, so why can't Jan? i guess that he doesn't want to be seen to constantly live off past glories. Yet, I don't see much productivity otherwise, unless he has hobbies and interests that we're unaware of. So, it could just be laziness. Maybe he's making enough to live on and feels no need to release music. Perhaps Universal have been difficult, I don't know.

What is fact is that there is plenty of top quality soundtrack music unavailable from that show.

What's doubly irritating is a Tim Truman score CD hasn't been released either. I thought something was moving with that project but it also has died a death, sadly.

I've come to terms with the fact we may never see anymore released from the wealth of emotive, and exciting music that Jan Hammer and Tim Truman composed for that series. If only Jan had been like Bear McCreary is now lol!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

I wouldn't rule Intrada out when it comes to Miami Vice. They are the label consistently working with Universal and Universal Music Group. Jan Hammer's label had to license the original recordings on disc 1 of "The Complete Collection" just like any other specialist label.

There is so much for Intrada to do that it might take a while if such a project is possible, but I can easily see them tackling this series at some point and providing a solid selection of the music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

Smitty - I'd love them to prove me wrong. In some ways, by writing my post above, I hoped i was tempting fate. Time will tell :-)

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

A complete MV set would actually mean all the score music that was ever written for the show. I guess that is pretty unlikely. But any new MV CD release would be a dream come true.

One composer that is mostly forgotten is the great John Petersen, who scored many Season 4 episodes, like this one for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Av-KmKMzc4

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

bump

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Earlier this year I went threw about 99% of "MacGyver" and posted my thoughts in a thread here. So, I started with season two of "Miami Vice". Now, I've already watched some, so I can't lay down exact scenes and thoughts for some of them.

Jan Hammer will hereto be refered to as "the Hammer", by episode names. :-)


Season 2:


"The Prodigal Son" (Part 1 & 2; the Hammer)

Some nice cues here and there, especially the soft piece that re-occures about a handful of times, with something along the line of a manipulated synth panpipe.


"Whatever Works" (the Hammer)
Some breif good cues.


"Out Where the Busses Don't Run" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"The Dutch Oven" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"Buddies" (the Hammer)
Nothing stood out for me.


"Junk Love" (the Hammer)
Not much scoring. One cues is tracked from an earlier episode. Nothing stood out.
Jazz musician Miles Daves played a character in this episode. He kind of played nicely off of Edward James Olmos.


"Tale of the Goat" (the Hammer)
There's a moody and somewhat atmospheric piece right after the opening credits that features a repeating percussion line, that's nice; a cue similar to it but with mroe action, occurs later when Tubbs is poisoned. Also a piece with synth percussion as Sonny stakes out a place through binoculars. And the climax cue at the end has the Hammer sound with that percussion thrown in.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Earlier this year I went threw about 99% of "MacGyver" and posted my thoughts in a thread here. So, I started with season two of "Miami Vice". Now, I've already watched some, so I can't lay down exact scenes and thoughts for some of them.

Jan Hammer will hereto be refered to as "the Hammer", by episode names. :-)


Season 2:


"The Prodigal Son" (Part 1 & 2; the Hammer)

Some nice cues here and there, especially the soft piece that re-occures about a handful of times, with something along the line of a manipulated synth panpipe.


"Whatever Works" (the Hammer)
Some breif good cues.


"Out Where the Busses Don't Run" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"The Dutch Oven" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"Buddies" (the Hammer)
Nothing stood out for me.


"Junk Love" (the Hammer)
Not much scoring. One cues is tracked from an earlier episode. Nothing stood out.
Jazz musician Miles Daves played a character in this episode. He kind of played nicely off of Edward James Olmos.


"Tale of the Goat" (the Hammer)
There's a moody and somewhat atmospheric piece right after the opening credits that features a repeating percussion line, that's nice; a cue similar to it but with mroe action, occurs later when Tubbs is poisoned. Also a piece with synth percussion as Sonny stakes out a place through binoculars. And the climax cue at the end has the Hammer sound with that percussion thrown in.


The Search (part 2 of The Trial And The Search) is used in Tale Of The Goat.

Colombia is used in Prodigal Son

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

First of all, i think Jan Hammer isn't interested, he doesn't like to release 1 to 1,5 minute music tracks, only if they are interesting enough to expand into 3 minutes of music.

Also, i think Universal have been very difficult towards labels considering releasing this music.
Tim Truman has been trying for years to release a CD with his music from Season 5.

If there's one label who would be perfect, it would be LaLaLand.

I for one never thought we would see the music from the X-Files, and somehow they managed to release it.

I would buy a Boxset of 'Miami Vice' music in a 'heartbeat' !

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

Earlier this year I went threw about 99% of "MacGyver" and posted my thoughts in a thread here. So, I started with season two of "Miami Vice". Now, I've already watched some, so I can't lay down exact scenes and thoughts for some of them.

Jan Hammer will hereto be refered to as "the Hammer", by episode names. :-)


Season 2:


"The Prodigal Son" (Part 1 & 2; the Hammer)

Some nice cues here and there, especially the soft piece that re-occures about a handful of times, with something along the line of a manipulated synth panpipe.


"Whatever Works" (the Hammer)
Some breif good cues.


"Out Where the Busses Don't Run" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"The Dutch Oven" (the Hammer)
A couple good cues.


"Buddies" (the Hammer)
Nothing stood out for me.


"Junk Love" (the Hammer)
Not much scoring. One cues is tracked from an earlier episode. Nothing stood out.
Jazz musician Miles Daves played a character in this episode. He kind of played nicely off of Edward James Olmos.


"Tale of the Goat" (the Hammer)
There's a moody and somewhat atmospheric piece right after the opening credits that features a repeating percussion line, that's nice; a cue similar to it but with mroe action, occurs later when Tubbs is poisoned. Also a piece with synth percussion as Sonny stakes out a place through binoculars. And the climax cue at the end has the Hammer sound with that percussion thrown in.


A cue for The Dutch Oven was released on a floopy vinyl single, many years ago. The track was called Trudy's Theme (IIRC). Why in heck, it was never included on an album is anybody's guess.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I think a "complete" soundtrack of a 111-episode series is a bit of a stretch, even if the composer WERE into it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Well, first: Hammer only did 90 of those and some of those were done together John Petersen (14 according to IMDb). And then some episodes were tracked with cues/edits of cues from other episodes. And the majority of them featured little scoring. There's really not as much as you think for 90 episodes.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

A cue for The Dutch Oven was released on a floopy vinyl single, many years ago. The track was called Trudy's Theme (IIRC). Why in heck, it was never included on an album is anybody's guess.

Thankfully it's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAGdsIcRHDs

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Two or three episodes to exercise by, works out a a nice way to go through the show.

"Bushido" (the Hammer)
There are some plesant low key drama pieces that under score scenes with Castillo. Especially the end of the cue where he is talking to the wife of his friend, where he took her to hide.


"Bought and Paid For" (the Hammer)
There's an upbeat cue after the opening credits, where Gina's friend enters her apartment to drop off food she picked up for Gina. It rurns dark hen she's attacked. And then there's a synthy car chase piece which is okay.


"Back in the World" (the Hammer)
Nothing to write home about. Very little score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"Phil the Shill" (the Hammer)
A good cue that starts in a warehouse at night with two men tied upsdie down and swinging from the ceiling.
Phil Collins played a bad guy and they used a song of his for the end credits.


"Definitely Miami" (the Hammer)
Couple of nice cues in here, especially the climax cue at the meet up.
Now they got Ted Nugent playing a bad guy. They sure love to take famous musicians and have them play baddies. Hell, I wonder if they ever did that for Hammer at some point.


"Yankee Dollar" (the Hammer)
There's a kind of dark piece when Crocket is at his desk doing paper work and feeling lonely. And a kind of sorroful piece as Crocket sits in a hospital. A nice chase piece at the beach, though short, that kind of reminded me vaguely of the theme music. A little over half way in there's a slow piece with a beat (thye kind of this Hammer did on the show), that's a nice mood piece if you enjoy that kind of thing. There's a nice meloncolly piece as Crocket drives (thankfully SFX free in the episode). And a kind of tense piece as Crocket and Tubbs drag a guy out to get information.

No famous musician playing a bad guy this time.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

the best Vice cue is in the episode Buddies when Crocket faces of with Remars character about his concience (before the song No Guarantees)

Here is a nice coverversion of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHtRtcURWFI

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"One Way Ticket" (the Hammer)
There's this really nice slow theme that's played a couple times in the episode; once as background music to a wedding in the opening, and then in another scene later. There's also a couple of melloncholly piece as a lawyer gaining a conscious, is flying his plane in the sky.
Overall a personal favorite so far into season two.


"Little Miss Dangerous" (the Hammer)
The score has been kind of low key; I'd either need to re-watch scenes or hear the score apart from the episode to properly judge it and I don't feel like re-watching so soon. I did enjoy the score for the climax with the slow drumbeat, but I lost track of where the score faded into a song. There's been editing liek that before and times where the score quietly just works it's way into the scene and you don't always notice.
Now they've made a known singer the baddie.


"Florence Italy" (the Hammer)
Not much score. Only one cue stood out, where Crocket & Tubbs were racing to the race event to make the arrest.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2014 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

the best Vice cue is in the episode Buddies when Crocket faces of with Remars character about his concience (before the song No Guarantees)

Here is a nice coverversion of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHtRtcURWFI


Great track!! I can probably live with re-recordings if produced with the right equipment! Like Yamaha/ Roland synths and a Fairlight instrument.(But who can afford it these days...!)

 
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