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 Posted:   Jan 10, 2017 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

At the risk of sounding ungrateful for all the great Max Steiner CD albums that have been released over the years, are there more Max Steiner CD albums on the way for 2017?

So sad that brilliant works like "Jezebel" (1938), the Oscar-winning "Now, Voyager" (1942), "My Reputation" (1946), "Tomorrow is Forever" (1946), "The Caine Mutiny" (1954), "Escapade in Japan" (1957) and many other delightful Steiner scores could exist on disc without a new recording (admitting that on a few of them we'd have to tolerate some scratch sounds).

In any case, Max Steiner Rules and will always be the great Founder in the sound era (he reportedly didn't like being called a pioneer) of the amazing, and so unfairly often derided and devalued, craft of film music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2017 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I too would like to see more Max Steiner. I'm afraid real music by a real composer in 2017 is doubtful. Hopefully BYU will be able to come through for us. All of your suggestions would be an instant-buy for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2017 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I would love to see a release of Max Steiner's score to THE HANGING TREE. Unfortunately, I think the problem there is a question of ownership .... Warner Brothers or the Gary Cooper Estate. Baroda was the name of Cooper's company. Perhaps, Intrada can straighten things out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2017 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   fortyone   (Member)

Incidentally, WHITE HEAT showed on TCM last night, and I watched it specifically to hear Steiner's music. Wow! I'd never seen the movie, nor heard a note of the score. It's really terrific, with a lot of churning, accelerated chase music and subtle, moody character scoring. A great theme, too. I just recently ordered the Stromberg/Morgan Film Noir CD to get the DARK PASSAGE suite, but now I'm very excited to hear the one from WHITE HEAT as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2017 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Not to mention a 2-CD legit release of the complete tracks to Steiner's masterpiece HELEN OF TROY!

Now that would make 2017 shine!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS is another wonderful Steiner score, and it exists in great sound (from either magnetic or optical masters, I forget which).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   CĂ©dricD   (Member)

I suspect almost nobody cares anymore about Steiner and that the labels don't want to take the risk of spending money with Steiner albums.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

We are trying to squeeze out another project which I cannot even hint at. But we're not abandoning old Maxie in '17.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

From the looks of that photo, I'd guess Roy Webb would be the composer of the score accompanying it.

Is that from THE BODY SNATCHER? (At first, I thought it from BEDLAM.)

But both have scores by Mr. Webb.

Most people around here would prefer his score to SINBAD THE SAILOR, which is wonderful.

But I have a predilection for I REMEMBER MAMA, which is probably short enough to be included on a release with the SINBAD tracks.

(Not that either of them is available, let alone complete. I have a Webb compilation release, which includes some SINBAD tracks, but not nearly the full score.

Ah well. Dreams for the start of a New Year....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

We are trying to squeeze out another project which I cannot even hint at. But we're not abandoning old Maxie in '17.



Another project. And it is not Steiner.
Ray, is the image a hint of that project?
Yavar, are you reading?

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Are there any later Steiner works that are left to be released? I can rarely stomach scores sourced from acetates.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   fortyone   (Member)

Karloff in THE BODY SNATCHER, would continually taunt Henry Daniell's character as "Toddy...Toddy MacFarlane, " and Toddy didn't like it. Great Webb score, by the way.

Ray did say he can't hint at what is stirring, and I assumed he was specifically referring to another Steiner. That or something in addition would be great, of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

But we're not abandoning old Maxie in '17.

Belated TOMORROW IS FOREVER at last ?

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'll buy any original Roy Webb (might not jump on adaptation work). Even if it's from scratchy acetates. smile If Ray is working on a Webb score that's incredible news!

But if somehow his Sinbad score comes out, I'll be truly over the moon.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Are there any later Steiner works that are left to be released? I can rarely stomach scores sourced from acetates.

You bet there is ! THE HANGING TREE and SPENCER'S MOUNTAIN. Unfortunately it has been mentioned on this board that the latter seems to be incomplete.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I bow to no one in my admiration for SINBAD and my wish to have it on CD, but I also have much love for THE BODY SNATCHER, both film and score. (I took brief time out from the subject at hand to discuss them with Robert Wise when I was interviewing him about STAR TREK-THE MOTION PICTURE.) I'm very grateful for John and Bill's suite on Marco Polo, but I do wish it had included the haunting moment when the murdered street singer's voice is laid over the orchestra...

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

No, not Webb. My posting of the photo was merely reference to Boris "Cabman Gray" Karloff's lovely line in THE BODY SNATCHER - "You must wait and see, like the children do!"

As for sound from acetate sources, yes they can certainly vary. But I think we've gotten some pretty good sound out of those 60 and 70 year-old discs. ADVENTURES OF DON JUAN, FIGHTER SQUADRON, even DARK VICTORY from 1939 sounds pretty darn good in my humble opinion. Naturally, we would all love to hear these great scores in dynamic digital sound (and thanks to John and Bill, we have LOTS including DON JUAN!), but the shrinking market and the enormous costs of new recordings sometimes leaves Max's original performances as the most practical and practicable way to go.

Naturally, composers like Herrmann and Rozsa have a more erudite level of support and God Bless James Fitzpatrick and Prometheus for doing things like THE THIEF OF BAGDAD. Old Maxie and his schmaltz may not get the nod of the highbrows, but those of us who love raw emotion and overt thrills in our scores still give the old boy our most respectful nod.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Thanks for the encouraging words Ray. There are some of us still out there who appreciate your efforts. I will take a Max Steiner CD from any source. I think your CDs taken from the old acetate discs sound just fine, in fact amazing considering the age of the discs. Don't know if THE HANGING TREE will ever be possible but keep an eye on it! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Incidentally, WHITE HEAT showed on TCM last night, and I watched it specifically to hear Steiner's music. Wow! I'd never seen the movie, nor heard a note of the score. It's really terrific, with a lot of churning, accelerated chase music and subtle, moody character scoring. A great theme, too. I just recently ordered the Stromberg/Morgan Film Noir CD to get the DARK PASSAGE suite, but now I'm very excited to hear the one from WHITE HEAT as well.



I bought the John Morgan / William Stromberg FILM NOIR CD from SAE in 1996 when it came out.
It was a BMG import from Germany at a hefty price. It's worth every penny. It's one fantastic CD.
Besides WHITE HEAT and DARK PASSAGE, it also has suites from ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT, THE MALTESE FALCON and THE VERDICT. John and Bill also did at the time for BMG Germany THE ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN / THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER. Along with Anna they are such a great team, it's a shame a label won't finance another CD or two from them. Let's us know how you like the CD. WHITE HEAT is a GREAT film with a GREAT Max Steiner score!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2017 - 11:45 PM   
 By:   fortyone   (Member)

I bought the John Morgan / William Stromberg FILM NOIR CD from SAE in 1996 when it came out.
It was a BMG import from Germany at a hefty price. It's worth every penny. It's one fantastic CD.
Besides WHITE HEAT and DARK PASSAGE, it also has suites from ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT, THE MALTESE FALCON and THE VERDICT. John and Bill also did at the time for BMG Germany THE ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN / THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER. Along with Anna they are such a great team, it's a shame a label won't finance another CD or two from them. Let's us know how you like the CD. WHITE HEAT is a GREAT film with a GREAT Max Steiner score!


Sure, I should have it soon and be able to spin it a few times.

 
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