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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: THE ARTWORK     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 12:44 PM     By:   Hitch22   (Member) By all means, this post is not meant to thoughtlessly criticise the labels. I know the hard work that goes into getting certain expanded titles released. There are so many releases that are just top notch and absolutely amazing. Expanded, deluxe, remastered, you name it... they all deserve (and most often get) gorgeous artwork. It's like a special present that needs to be wrapped in the most beautiful wrapping paper available... whether it's the original artwork or custom made. My greatest respect goes out to the art departement that is responsible for all those awesome album covers. Yet, once in a blue moon, I have a minor regret regarding the artwork. For example: ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK The 1988 reissue depicts a decapitated Lady Liberty; her head laying in the middle of a NYC street. Gorgeous art work, I must say. For the 2000/2003 expanded release, the cover art uses the same picture. However, for some reason the picture is enlarged. The surroundings, the broken buildings, the chaos on the street, the people running, ect... all, for the most part, is cut out of the frame. It's such a shame, imo. Not to mention the contrast filter that was applied over the artwork. The 1988 reissue: The expanded Silva Screen 2000/2003 release: Luckily, over the years I find that such pitiful changes (or downgrades imo) like the example above, hardly occur anymore. The labels put so much effort into creating the best cover art they possibly can. La La Land holds my highest esteem in this regard. Their releases, such as E.T. and Hook are just gorgeous.    Posted:   Apr 5, 2021 - 1:01 PM     By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member) I love when the labels are able to include the alternate or unused art. Keen-eyed collectors might notice that while the Quartet Seven-per-cent Solution features Drew Struzan's Amsel-esque poster art on its cover, inside you can find Amsel's own unused and extremely similar painting.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 2:29 AM     By:   Hitch22   (Member) I love when the labels are able to include the alternate or unused art. Keen-eyed collectors might notice that while the Quartet Seven-per-cent Solution features Drew Struzan's Amsel-esque poster art on its cover, inside you can find Amsel's own unused and extremely similar painting. I agree, original artwork is often too cool not to use. (However, some examples, like La La Land's E.T. and HOOK prove otherwise.) But if the original artwork is already epic enough, then it seems unnecessary to change. I mean, going from this... ...to this... ...is such a disappointment, imo.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 10:02 AM     By:   johnonymous86   (Member) On the other end, THE WRATH OF KHAN GNP edition was pretty much the epitome of bland. The cover art for the Retrograde release is spectacular.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 1:41 PM     By:   danbeck   (Member) I'm amazed on some of the praise that modern vinyl artwork gets with their "newly commisioned art" instead of the use of the original poster art. Vinyl releases covers of the Halloween, Friday The 13th series, The Omen, Jaws, Hellraiser are much worse (IMO) to what they could look like if using the original poster art (it's a bit like Shout Factory Blu-rays, on which almost every time I use the reversible artwork with the original poster instead of the newly commissioned covers). I'd even say that the LLL vinyl release of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, while looking very good as it does, is IMO no match to the original iconic Bob Peak art.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 1:46 PM     By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member) It's hard to go wrong with Bob Peak. When I was tracking down one of my favorite-posters-for-bad-movies, The Island (1980), I found Peak's teaser poster, sort of a cross between his Apocalypse Now art and the final Island poster (done by a different artist). When I had my own office at my day job (sigh) I had them both framed on the wall, along with another favorite-art-for-bad-movie poster, Year of the Comet. As well as two Amsels and of course the posters for my own crappy movies. Now all back in storage.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 2:22 PM     By:   .   (Member) .    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 2:48 PM     By:   The Mutant   (Member) Escape from NY - perhaps the second release wasn’t allowed to use the actors likeness?    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 2:49 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) Talking about BAD artwork, nothing can beat Emanuel Chanborendon's Milan albums...    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 4:12 PM     By:   Thgil   (Member) As far as artwork is concerned, I'd like to see more "neutral" covers rather than the actual film poster art. By that I mean images of the composer, or the actual recording sessions or suchlike – anything that focuses on the composer and the creation of the music, instead of poster art for what is often a daft film with daft actors and daft imagery. But of course, I understand that legalities might demand film posters. In the immortal word of Don Draper: "What?" I can see having the composer pictured in the booklet or on the back, next to the track listing, but foregoing the movie art makes no sense. It's literally music for that movie. While we're at it, let's ditch poster art all together and promote movies with posters of the directors' headshots above the editing suite used.    Posted:   Apr 6, 2021 - 7:33 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) As far as artwork is concerned, I'd like to see more "neutral" covers rather than the actual film poster art. By that I mean images of the composer, or the actual recording sessions or suchlike – anything that focuses on the composer and the creation of the music, instead of poster art for what is often a daft film with daft actors and daft imagery. But of course, I understand that legalities might demand film posters. This is probalby the stupidiest thing I've ever read on this message board. I wonder who wrote it, since it is in my ignore list. Sweeden boy, perhaps?    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:06 AM     By:   .   (Member) .    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:17 AM     By:   .   (Member) .    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 8:51 AM     By:   Totoro   (Member) Does SAE/Rialto Studios use original poster art for its wonderful covers? Does Tribute Film Classics use original poster art as covers? Does the original release of the Gerhardt Classic Film Scores Series use original poster art as covers? Is a preference for those well-crafted designs to original film poster art offensive to some here? If I want to look at original film poster art, I prefer good reproductions that can be found aplenty online rather than tiny partial images cropped to fit a square sheet of toilet paper-size CD booklet cover. Better still, I might read a book about the original artists of the posters (who aren't even credited on 99% of CD booklets). It's almost funny that some of those who say the original film poster art is so important to their collections cannot name the artists responsible for the vast majority of their CDs' poster art. You missed the point completely, friend. But I salute you for trying.    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 9:10 AM     By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member) I don't think putting composers or recording sessions on covers are going to be interesting. In the booklet, yes, but they are bland as cover motives. These pictures all tend to look more or less alike and say nothing at all about the music. I find this already quite boring on some classical music CDs - I mean, how many pictures of Nikolaus Harnoncourt or Jean Sibelius does one need? - and movies have usually much more exciting and expressive artwork. Sometimes I find alternative and newly commissioned artwork very appealing, sometimes the artwork from these "alternative cover" threads is what I use.    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 11:07 AM     By:   .   (Member) .    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 12:31 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) I don't think putting composers or recording sessions on covers are going to be interesting. After doing some research, I now see you are correct. I asked 100 soundtrack buyers if they found the ape's face on the CD cover of "Link" more interesting than the face of Jerry Goldsmith, and 98 responded that the ape's face was far more interesting to look at. I did a quick research around the world and, YES, 99% of people said they prefer the picture of an old man with white hair they never heard before in the album cover instead of the artwork of the movie they liked and want to buy the music from it. You can trust me. My research is flawless.    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 12:39 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) LINK    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 12:40 PM     By:   Lokutus   (Member) I don't think putting composers or recording sessions on covers are going to be interesting. After doing some research, I now see you are correct. I asked 100 soundtrack buyers if they found the ape's face on the CD cover of "Link" more interesting than the face of Jerry Goldsmith, and 98 responded that the ape's face was far more interesting to look at. I did a quick research around the world and, YES, 99% of people said they prefer the picture of an old man with white hair they never heard before in the album cover instead of the artwork of the movie they liked and want to buy the music from it. You can trust me. My research is flawless. Depends on the composer I guess. There are some that if their photo was included on the cover I certainly wouldn't mind and would happily buy it in a second without any need to hear a single second first. On the other hand I'd apply the same approach with anything including just their name on the cover. That Link above well... why not... except that comic sans is just fucking idiotic!    Posted:   Apr 7, 2021 - 12:49 PM     By:   Totoro   (Member) STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE     General Discussion: THE ARTWORK    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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