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Jul 28, 2010 - 9:50 AM
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Thor
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When I do lectures on (western) film music history, it usually looks something like this: Early silent film period METROPOLIS (1927) - example of developped silent film score KING KONG (1933) or BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1947) - example of Golden Age A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951) - example of jazz and early popular music in film THE GRADUATE (1967) - example of specially composed, popular music as score (I mention EASY RIDER too, as one of the first "compilation" scores of its kind) PLANET OF THE APES (1968) - example of 60's experimentation, type 1 THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY (1968) - example of 60's experimentation, type 2 STAR WARS (1977) - resurgence of the classically symphonic score FLETCH, BEVERLY HILLS COP, SCARFACE - examples of 80's pop producers doing scores THE ROCK (1995) - full realization of Zimmer's "power anthem" I have a separate lecture about more contemporary film score scene, because it is so heterogenous and diverse. I also have separate lectures on the FUNCTIONS of film music where I use other examples to underline other things - TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD for dialogue, PSYCHO for cognitive point-of-view and so on.
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Jul 28, 2010 - 10:45 AM
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Thor
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Hi Thor, thanks, but I think you did not understand my question? I am not looking for examples, but really the first of/in/use of/ other interesting stuff... etc. And please copy/paste it in the list... greetings sandor I know, and several of my titles fall in your category. The problem with naming something "the first", as I've often debated with manderley, is that there's almost always something earlier once you delve into it (whether on a purely experimental level or just plainly forgotten by the annals of film history). So it is perhaps more fruitful to ask what was the first of something that REALLY MADE AN IMPACT and/or had an influence in something; what is referenced in film music history as being landmark turning points? Example: Zimmer first developped his "power anthem" approach, one of the most influential sounds in film music the last 20 years, in the late 80's with films such as BLACK RAIN. However, it didn't really reach its fruition untill CRIMSON TIDE and really became the landmark, influential, referenced, popular approach from and including THE ROCK in 1995. In any case, though, your list WOULD have to include stuff like KING KONG (1933), BLACKBOARD JUNGLE (1955), THE GRADUATE (1967) and THE ROCK (1995) -- or BLACK RAIN (1989) if you really want to subscribe to the "first" thing rather than "when it took foothold" idea.
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Jul 30, 2010 - 2:38 PM
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Thor
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ofcourse Mr Thor! I know that. But what your writing now is what I wanted! This is what I mean... I wrote something and you could finish it to the basics. Did you realize that? Let's do it for filmmusic instead of classical music!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, yes....I knew what you mean from the first post and I'm not trying to be difficult. It's just very hard to do. For example, from your list: 1927- The Jazz Singer - start Golden Age THE JAZZ SINGER was not the start of the "Golden Age sound" in film music, if that is what you mean. That honour is usually given to KING KONG (1933), with its full set of leitmotifs, neoromantic tone language, refined use of the diegetic/non-diegetic transitions and so on. However, JAZZ SINGER IS widely regarded as the first real SOUND film. Although that is debatable too if you're viewing it in purely technical terms. There were earlier films, like DON JUAN (1926) or even DREAM STREET (1921), which experimented with sound and film. I'm sure manderley can fill you in. 196?- ?????? - ??? - first use of Moogsynthesizer in filmscore (CAN ANYBODY TELL?) I don't know for sure, but I would guess A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971) by Wendy Carlos. Carlos was at the very least responsible for commercializing the Moog with her SWITCHED-ON BACH albums in the late 60's. 1969- Easy Rider - first use of Rocksongs It was not the first film to use rock songs as a film score. BLACKBOARD JUNGLE did it in 1955, probably the earliest to use rock songs as score all the way through. However, EASY RIDER is usually quoted as one of - if not THE first film to utilize a socalled "compilation score" of previously existing rock songs. I salute your effort to find THE FIRST of everything, sandor. I really do. But as you can see, it's almost impossible in most cases (unless you're dealing with VERY specific things). At most, you can delineate what was the first of something TO HAVE AN IMPACT; the reference landmark point in film history. But I realize that's not what you want.
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Some to find: First digitally recorded score First purely synthesized score First score recorded at each major/famous recording studios First score to a film in color
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