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 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Your first sentence reads well, but isn’t actually true.


It is though. See next example:



You said:


There are posts on these pages that I remember very well from Zimmer detractors calling his fans idiots.


This is anecdotal.





And your second isn’t the point I was arguing.


No, that was the point I was arguing.



It’s anecdotal to you; I know they exist. And I’m not presenting anything else as fact.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Goatmeal   (Member)

Ugh! Such divisiveness in this thread.

Why don't we talk about something upon which we can all agree?

For instance, I just heard there's a new Indiana Jones film coming out...

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

At this point I suggest that everybody grabs a mug of their favorite beverage, and we all get a little drunk and laugh over how much hair we used to have.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

At this point I suggest that everybody grabs a mug of their favorite beverage, and we all get a little drunk and laugh over how much hair we used to have.

Raising a class to you now.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

At this point I suggest that everybody grabs a mug of their favorite beverage, and we all get a little drunk and laugh over how much hair we used to have.

Raising a class to you now.


Cheers, I'll drink to that!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Wait, I want to talk about Indiana Jones…

Oh, please your bessies smile

Cheers!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

At this point I suggest that everybody grabs a mug of their favorite beverage, and we all get a little drunk and laugh over how much hair we used to have.


I still have lots of hair, just not on my head!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Is it true that Hans Zimmer is an energy vampire

That is a scientifically established fact, yes. Similar to Dracula, who could do it himself, Hans Zimmer has the power to make people go up the walls.


Thank you, n_s and Nic. I can now say this after gathering and sewing up my sides upon arising off the floor. Hours later. Now will someone help remove from m’mind’s eye the image of Frank Langella but it’s not Langella’s face (guess whose!) on the uptick that is morphing into something more like the guy’s head & body in Return Of The Fly (Cecile—help me!). eek

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


James Southall from Movie Wave

that is it, thanks,
driven into hiatus for offending the C of RC


James Southal still posts music reviews weekly if not more. He and Zimmer were also able to have a discussion together, where Zimmer apologized, as well.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 6:18 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I knew he was still reviewing but I didn't know that about the two of them meeting. That's encouraging to hear that they were able to bury the hatchet.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2023 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

...because he fucking sucks and has ruined film music? razz

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

You know that is great that Zimmer patched it up with Southall. But the event shows a serious flaw in his character. Southall did nothing at all wrong. Powerful and successful people should not stomp on little people just writing their thoughts on a blog, and it is especially odd that the thing was set off by Southall writing about Junkie XL, not Zimmer himself. I believe Zimmer patched it up as much as any other reason because he realized that he had embarrassed himself acting like a middle school bully. This is an idiotic and arrogant notion that if you are successful and powerful that you are somehow exempt from people not liking your work, or the work of your farm composers, or writing about how they do not like it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

The thing about successful and famous people is that they also make mistakes. It's human nature to be defensive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The thing about successful and famous people is that they also make mistakes. It's human nature to be defensive.

Yeah, well, these are very public, very stupid mistakes. He should be held to a higher bar.
It points to a serious flaw that he cannot grasp this idea that not 100% of the planet will adore Remote Control.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Zimmer should definitely be criticized for his comments towards James, no doubt. But I also understand where he's coming from. His whole model is based upon collaborative projects, and you stand behind the man you've nurtured. But yeah -- he could have expressed his dissatisfaction in a more moderate way.

That being said, I dig Zimmer not only as a composer (he's my second favourite composer of all time, after Williams), but also as a person. I've never sat down and had a beer with him, but I've met him on several occasions, in various social circumstances, and he always comes across as a very inclusive person.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

From what I remember of the events, Zimmer even admitted that he had been a few glasses of wine deep and using social media when that occured. I don't use social media much anymore, but I can't think of anything more relatable than coming across some negativity directed towards a friend/colleague and responding in the abject. I've certainly been guilty of it. For most artists, I think there is a lot that goes on in their mind when responding to critics. Especially in how much they can filter and how much they cannot. I don't really hold Hans Zimmer to any high standard as a person. Nor anyone else. We are all very stupid, very quick to form opinions and react to others, and take a shit at some point. Some of us are just more talented and/or successful in our jobs than others.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Well, Southall's reviews are often respectless and harsh. I am not a fan.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

I like most of his music well enough, not a huge fan, nor a detractor. But he clearly has a huge fan base and probably is only 2nd in film score popularity only to John Williams. In fact he was just featured on 60 Minutes(a US magazine show) recently and his concerts are huge hits internationally. From what I can remember, when he formed Remote Control(1989) and began doing tag team film scores and such and the style of music he ushered in with this team collaboration, that's when the big divide really took hold.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Zimmer overload at aisle 7, fsm
All Terminators to aisle 7.
Yawn


AHHH greetings, Provider #2!
For the record there were, by my count, 58 entries in 2001 between when this thread originated and died. That may/may not include all of Swashbuckler's double posts.

In the past five or so days alone since resurrection, about to hit 140 more = approx. 200.
500 quatloos says give it another week and we hit 250.

Cheerio, pip-pip and all that,
Provider #1

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2023 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   ibelin   (Member)

I don't really care about his music, but in the early 2000s he did a few film scores which I really like. The ones I have in mind are 'Gladiator', 'The Last Samurai', and 'King Arthur'.

 
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