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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2013 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The theme's video highlights are hilarious. Clothesline and face mask. How the rules have changed.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

So as usual it's impossible to find any info on just who created the music outside the composers themselves...

I have some tracks I bought digitally and want to tag them but of course seeing that companies don't care to actually give credit anywhere and just take your money...

So are there orchestrators? Named orchestras or are they all contracted? Who conducts? Etc...


Finding music tracks used for the older NFL Films videos can be a vexing and very frustrating endeavor, indeed. This Week in Pro Football (1967 – 1975) and various Super Bowl highlights videos (up until the early Eighties) utilized numerous library cues from De Wolfe, APM, KPM, etc., by composers such as Spence, Mansfield, Dale, Kirchin, on and on the list goes. To confound searches even further, cues were frequently renamed. Even for those library cues that can be found with composer’s names, there are rarely any further details. There is a group dedicated to the music of NFL Films at Yahoo which has been extremely helpful to me in my never-ending quest for older library tunes. I’ve been amazed at the amount of awesome work some of the folks there have done. You might find help there as well. Good luck! - jack

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2013 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The NFL Network has been doing some great work with their own documentaries recently. The music is a good mixture of some of the older Tom Hedden and Dave Robidoux orchestral cues combined with some added original material. The late 90's IMHO were when Hedden and Robidoux were at their creative best. They were using 70 plus piece orchestra's and they were winning Emmy Awards along the way for their work.

"The Diesel". Big John Riggins.

The egos of both Namath and Riggins on the same team were too much for the New York Jets to bear in the mid 1970's. Something had to give, and Riggins moved on to the Washington Redskins and from there on to the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2013 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Just thought I'd share these amusing videos here amongst the group. (Is anyone still here? wink) Who would have thought that even the great John Facenda would have trouble pronouncing Fred Biletnikoff's name? Joe Conklin actually does the best Facenda impression I've ever heard. And Joe's Keith Jackson ain't half bad either.





Classic Spence and "The Voice" John Facenda.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2013 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Sam Spence should be inducted into the pro football hall of fame. His masterful music has served as the perfect backdrop for the replaying of great plays and great games and has provided decades of enjoyment for football fans. Sam Spence is to the NFL what John Williams is to movies."



Sam Spence visits UW-Green Bay.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Many running backs of yesteryear darted and slashed against the grain avoiding enemy tacklers to the clippity-clop strains of "Range Rider" by Sam Spence.



A catchy piece of music if ever there was one. The first 6 discs of the "Autumn Thunder" set are chock full of golden Sam Spence material. There's not a bad apple in the bunch.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

iTunes seem to have 6 discs of the 10 discs in autumn thunder. For some reason they stopped at 6 over 1.5 years ago. Rights issue or sales?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

iTunes seem to have 6 discs of the 10 discs in autumn thunder. For some reason they stopped at 6 over 1.5 years ago. Rights issue or sales?

Amazon has vinyl of these 6 volumes do maybe these are re-releases of vinyl and not autumn thunder. Don't have time to do track by track comparison

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

The NFL Network has been doing some great work with their own documentaries recently. The music is a good mixture of some of the older Tom Hedden and Dave Robidoux orchestral cues combined with some added original material. The late 90's IMHO were when Hedden and Robidoux were at their creative best. They were using 70 plus piece orchestra's and they were winning Emmy Awards along the way for their work.

"The Diesel". Big John Riggins.

The egos of both Namath and Riggins on the same team were too much for the New York Jets to bear in the mid 1970's. Something had to give, and Riggins moved on to the Washington Redskins and from there on to the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.



iTunes has 6 volumes of NFL Films of Hedden and Robidoux. Can't find cd versions if there ever were any.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Other than the iTunes offerings I don't think any of the Hedden and Robidoux material were available as pressed cd's. Perhaps at one point there were cdr's offered but I'm not sure. Robidoux's scores to HBO productions like "Hard Knocks", "Lombardi", his "America's Game", and his recent "Namath" HBO documentary score were released as downloads.




http://youtube.com/watch?v=aqVevEierXw

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Listening to "Round-Up". (I think from disc 5.) A little trivia , this cue was played on King Of Queens, when Dough was trying to beat the record for the most packages delivered without damage. I'm pretty sure they used other cues in another episode. Which got me thinking. Can anyone mention what films or television shows incorporated Autumn Thunder cues? They were usually used for comical montage scene of some sorts.

This makes it more saddening to know Sam is not receiving any royalties for these many uses and appearances of his music in shows, commercials, etc. Incredible. I just wish some campaign would be done to pressure the NFL to come forward and explain how on earth they can justify taking Sam's music performance rights out of him.
For those of you who are watching the NFL season (go Cowboys!), Sam's music is being used in VISA commercials and many highlight shows. And, if anyone is in the Bahamas area, he will be conducting some of his music there very soon.

Alex

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Real Football season is here. Time to spin some Autumn Thunder! big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

For those of you who are watching the NFL season (go Cowboys!), Sam's music is being used in VISA commercials and many highlight shows. And, if anyone is in the Bahamas area, he will be conducting some of his music there very soon.

Alex


Alex, the Cowboys are said to have a strong offense and a middling defense.

Looks like 8-8 again, but Jerry Jones won't live forever.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

This classic video speaks for itself. Facenda's narration combined with the quick cutting and heroic music laid on thick for the great Johnny Unitas it doesn't get any more theatrical than this.



I always liked the music that was used at the beginning of this video (0:26) when an ailing Unitas comes in for the second half of Super Bowl III and begins to lead the struggling Colts forward. That piece of music was not composed by Spence but by Jack Trombey. Figuring out who composed what for these old videos takes a bit of detective work, but it's nice to see that there are others who are into this stuff as well.

"Dodge City" by Jack Trombey goes off into Bonanza territory a bit as it moves along but the first half of the piece is the obviously what they wanted.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

FSM, when it was a paper magazine, had a big spread on Sam and NFL music, I am not sure I ever actually read it. I think I still have it somewhere.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


"Dodge City" by Jack Trombey goes off into Bonanza territory a bit as it moves along but the first half of the piece is the obviously what they wanted.


Some of the fun of Autumn Thunder is picking out the "tracked" or "sourced" music. For example Goldsmith's Supergirl theme is very evident. That's not to say there isn't an abundance of originally here.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Sam Spence - "Headline"



Used in the Minnesota Vikings vs. Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl IX highlights film. I can't help but be reminded of a scrambling for his life Vikings quarterback Fran Tarkenton desperately seeking targets downfield against the vaunted Steelers "Steel Curtain" defense.

Martha Jane Weber - "Action Man"



(Yes, that's the Chiefs Len Dawson providing placement for kicking legend Jan Stenerud. Both are now enshrined in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.)

Martha's contributions on NFL Films often get overlooked (Most people probably will think it's Spence) but she proved she could write "music with hair on it" every bit as good if not better than some of the men. Four of her contributions are contained on the first two discs of the "Autumn Thunder" set.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)



Alex, the Cowboys are said to have a strong offense and a middling defense.

Looks like 8-8 again, but Jerry Jones won't live forever.


Boy, did you see that beauty of a game last night? The 'Boys ran all over the Saints!! Romo and co. looked great, but what about that defense?? They haven't looked nearly as bad as everyone predicted they'd look. I am definitely getting more excited about this!

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)


Some of the fun of Autumn Thunder is picking out the "tracked" or "sourced" music. For example Goldsmith's Supergirl theme is very evident. That's not to say there isn't an abundance of originally here.


While I've been enjoying the hell out of Sam Spence's NFL music since this thread helped me discover it last summer, I've collected enough to find some HILARIOUS temp-track imitations throughout.

The opening of "Mighty Men and Magic Moments" opens with Resighi's PINES OF ROME fanfare from the final movement and then very quickly moves to a trite-sounding aping of SUPERMAN's title theme, low string "bridge" between the brass/percussion fanfare and all, whilst passing around Respighi's PINES motif.

It's two rip-offs intertwined at once:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12z37hL6f4

Anyway, I do enjoy a lot of this stuff regardless; Here's a pretty extensive playlist of pieces by Spence on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpbM8djgzwM&list=PL6893D66F8D12E8C9



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Nice to see that this thread helped you discover the music.

 
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