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 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I can see the headlines now...

"World's Worst Lawsuit: Michael Giacchino sued for causing psychological and emotional distress to fans and for contributions made to the degradation of film music as a serious art. Aggravated members of the FSM board are expected to serve in the trial as fudge, fury, and eggs on Jupiter."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

Really can't believe what I'm reading here in defense of Giacchino's goofy cue titles. Oh, how standards have fallen. If it where a gonzo, zany comedy film, this wouldn't bother me, but this is supposed to be a serious movie, not just an empty-headed "fun" summer blockbuster, like the latest TRANSFORMERS piece of cultural shit. Not only that, but for me, who's favorite film is and always will be the original PLANET OF THE APES, it's like a slap in the face. It's like Giacchino is saying to me personally (which of course I know he isn't literally but, figuratively....) it's like he's saying, "I wrote the music for this, but...." I can't continue because I just don't understand the mentality behind it! I just don't get doing this -- because this for posterity. I'm a fan of Giacchino. I wanted him to score RISE and was very glad when I read he was going to score this one because of all the current film music composers working I think he, outside of John Williams, displayed in previous efforts the best sensibilities for this kind of score. But now, it's like at the last minute he decided to take a dump on the thing, as if to say, "Folks, artistically, don't take this music seriously, it's all just a goofy lark. I'm just a musical hack." It's nuts! A hundred years from now are these the cue titles he wants film scholars to be reading?

And for all those who will now attack me with the cliched responses of "Seriously? Really? Come on, lighten up!" Sorry, but seriously and really this is how it emotionally affects me.

No, sir.... I don't like it.


Not gonna attack you. It's sad you haven't given the MUSIC a CHANCE but whatever.

Have you met Mr. Giacchino? If you did, would you call him out for this? He's actually a nice, engaging fellow who does not deserve the hate some seem to heap on him over something trivial as TRACK TITLES!?!?!?!

Wow, we have devolved as a community. It's all about track titles and not the actual music. So sad.

You can hate it all you like so I assume you won't be buying this soundtrack then?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

No, sir.... I don't like it.



I get that you don't like the titles, but "emotionally affected" and "slap in the face"? That's taking it a bit too far.


Amen friend.

The extreme dislike of TRACK TITLES is disconcerting to me. Who cares? What should ALWAYS matter is the music. We buy SOUNDTRACKS because of the MUSIC, right?

I am confused and emotionally distressed myself (kidding of course). Last time I checked, I thought we were a community of film music fans? Seems to me many are into the superficial side of collecting.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I will never take a movie seriously if the screenwriter names a character Chip.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I will never take a movie seriously if the screenwriter names a character Chip.



 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 9:56 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I will never take a movie seriously if the screenwriter names a character Chip.

So I guess you're not a fan of Iceman ("Screenplay by Chip Proser and John Drimmer") or Innerspace ("Screenplay by Jeffrey Boam and Chip Proser. Story by Chip Proser"). smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I will never take a movie seriously if the screenwriter names a character Chip.





That little tea cup ruined everything. When will filmmakers learn that everything needs to be SERIOUS!?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I will never take a movie seriously if the screenwriter names a character Chip.

So I guess you're not a fan of Iceman ("Screenplay by Chip Proser and John Drimmer") or Innerspace ("Screenplay by Jeffrey Boam and Chip Proser. Story by Chip Proser"). smile


No - those sound like they don't take the subjects of men encased in ice or Martin Short's body seriously.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

"Folks, artistically, don't take this music seriously, it's all just a goofy lark. I'm just a musical hack."

I guesss Peter Schickele is a hack too...or Mozart, or Saint-Saens or Satie...

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Olivier_Lille   (Member)

All these track titles sound like monkey business to me !!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

No - those sound like they don't take the subjects of men encased in ice or Martin Short's body seriously.

In fairness, it's very hard to take Martin Short's body seriously (as demonstrated in Cross My Heart).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Really can't believe what I'm reading here in defense of Giacchino's goofy cue titles. Oh, how standards have fallen. If it where a gonzo, zany comedy film, this wouldn't bother me, but this is supposed to be a serious movie, not just an empty-headed "fun" summer blockbuster, like the latest TRANSFORMERS piece of cultural shit. Not only that, but for me, who's favorite film is and always will be the original PLANET OF THE APES, it's like a slap in the face. It's like Giacchino is saying to me personally (which of course I know he isn't literally but, figuratively....) it's like he's saying, "I wrote the music for this, but...." I can't continue because I just don't understand the mentality behind it! I just don't get doing this -- because this for posterity. I'm a fan of Giacchino. I wanted him to score RISE and was very glad when I read he was going to score this one because of all the current film music composers working I think he, outside of John Williams, displayed in previous efforts the best sensibilities for this kind of score. But now, it's like at the last minute he decided to take a dump on the thing, as if to say, "Folks, artistically, don't take this music seriously, it's all just a goofy lark. I'm just a musical hack." It's nuts! A hundred years from now are these the cue titles he wants film scholars to be reading?

And for all those who will now attack me with the cliched responses of "Seriously? Really? Come on, lighten up!" Sorry, but seriously and really this is how it emotionally affects me.

No, sir.... I don't like it.




I guess the Dawn action figures, T shirts, iphone cases and soda cups are really pissing you off then.

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Carls-Disposable-Plastic-Unused/dp/B00LCRI426/ref=sr_1_46?ie=UTF8&qid=1404218427&sr=8-46&keywords=dawn+of+the+planet+of+the+apes

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Best response of the year!

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

Well I don't know about you, but I'd say this went well!

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

I like the goofy track titles. They're fun, and provide some entertainment.

There are no "low standards" here when it comes to track titles.

Elfman has written some great music, and called in "Weepy Donuts" for example. Several times.

Planet of the Apes has some serious themes and ideas as a whole, and in the individual films, but they are pieces of popcorn entertainment. Make you laugh, cry, and sometimes show an interesting idea or two.

How is that in any way impacted by having a funny track title on the soundtrack CD case?

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

How is that in any way impacted by having a funny track title on the soundtrack CD case?

Perhaps its not the "funny title" so much as its sense of humor doesn't mesh with some peoples?

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Have you met Mr. Giacchino? If you did, would you call him out for this? He's actually a nice, engaging fellow who does not deserve the hate some seem to heap on him over something trivial as TRACK TITLES!?!?!?!

Who's talking hate? I don't hate Mr. Giacchino, and no, I've never met him. I'd like to meet him, but it wouldn't be to yell at him or something, but instead just ask him, "Why? Was this necessary?" I just hate his track titles for this particular film. That's it, I hate what he's done, but not the person that done did it. He has the right to name them and I have the right to hate them (and say other things). And that's where it begins and ends -- except that when I get the score on CD, which I on pre-order (and it bugs me that I have to wait longer for it), his silly track titles will be a thing of annoyance that will have to be ignored. (Thank you, Mr. Giacchino, for contributing to a film franchise I love something that I will have to ignore.) I have every other POTA score on CD and this one will now stick out as an oddity because of silly title tracks. I feel it's a stupid thing and I'd rather it wasn't so. I care about it and most others here don't. So be it, but this makes me a bad guy? Like I'm hurting someone's feelings by not embracing this? Like my feelings don't count but how dare I hurt the feelings of Mr. Giacchino? Now it's my turn to ask, "Really?" By the way, I have yet to hear this score, but if it's as good as I'm reading then I look forward to not just seeing the film and how the score plays in it, but listening to the score on CD for many years to come, and to Mr. Giacchino scoring the next APES film. But do I look forward to another score with goofy track titles..... as Caesar said in RISE, "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Of course, one could modify the track titles to oneĀ“s pleasure when ripping the CD to a computer?

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

All this talk about track titles. Is the music that insignificant that this thread mostly discusses his use of puns? wink

My thoughts- the occasion pun is clever but like anything in life, too much of one thing isn't good. Contrast and balance is the key.

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

Just rename them TRACK 1, TRACK 2... That way the titles won't offend you.



And my opinion, I LOVE his track titles. I say bring them on. It just shows he is having fun with what he is doing and enjoying himself.

 
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