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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2020 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I suspect that, to have a truly complete soundtrack, you'll need both releases. From the way it's written, it sounds like the material from the first half of the season will be stuff that was not on the current release. Since it's all digital, it's pretty easy to just create a combined album. It'd be nice to know the correct chronological order of the tracks though because I'm pretty sure (just based on the track titles) that "Chapter 1" is out of order.

I'm just hoping that we don't end up with a "complete" Season 1 album that is unbalanced and heavily favors the first five episodes.

"Chapter 1" has 28 tracks. Two of them are bonus tracks from the Short Trek episode "Children of Mars". Then there are the opening and end titles (which are season-long). So, 24 tracks for the first five episodes.

"Chapter 2" also has 28 tracks. One of them is Isa Briones' rendition of "Blue Skies", so that only leaves 27 tracks of Russo's score, which will be "taken from the entire season".

If they only include 2-3 extra tracks from the first five episodes, it'll be a roughly even split.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Details on the new Picard release are here:
https://filmmusicreporter.com/2020/04/02/star-trek-picard-season-1-soundtrack-album-details/

It looks like it includes material from the 1st release plus the new stuff.

I was hoping it would just be Part 2.

Track titles & times:

1. Star Trek Picard Main Title (1:43)
2. Star Trek Picard End Title (1:44)
3. Walking With Number One (1:16)
4. Dahj Activates (1:10)
5. Dahj and Picard Speak (3:54)
6. Dahj’s Last Fight (1:51)
7. Picard Decides (1:46)
8. The Painting (2:58)
9. Twins (4:15)
10. Picard Requests Help (2:15)
11. Romulan Collusion (2:21)
12. Trouble For Picard (1:18)
13. Rafi Decides To Join (1:51)
14. Rafi Turns Down Picard (2:06)
15. Sizing Up Rios (4:15)
16. Happier Times (3:25)
17. Leaving With Elnor (1:52)
18. Mystery Ship (3:10)
19. Picard Goes Back (2:08)
20. Picard Leaves Elnor (1:41)
21. Soji and Narek Waltz (4:42)
22. Home Movies (1:52)
23. Jurati and Maddox (1:55)
24. Leaving With Maddox (3:47)
25. Seven Needs Revenge (3:02)
26. What’s Your Emergency (1:25)
27. Page (1:58)
28. Children of Mars End Credits (1:43)
29. Jurati and Rios Get Close (2:37)
30. Raffi Calls Bosch (3:26)
31. Raffi Opens Up (1:34)
32. Borg Cube (4:28)
33. Looking For Picard (5:10)
34. Walking Around Nepenthe (2:25)
35. Picard and Riker Reunite (2:34)
36. I Was Human (3:04)
37. Elnor Fights Narissa (2:47)
38. Picard Bids Farewell (5:01)
39. Tal Shiar Admonisher (2:46)
40. Staying Close (2:59)
41. Rios Feels Lost (2:06)
42. Hologram Meeting (1:06)
43. Raffi and Rios Talk (4:40)
44. Rios and Picard (3:13)
45. Unexpected Visitor (2:32)
46. Leaving the La Sirena (2:51)
47. Sutra Arrives (4:23)
48. Narek Escapes (8:07)
49. Butterfly (1:41)
50. Romulans Arrive Pt.1 “Romulans Arrive Pt.1 Romulans Arrive Pt.1 (2:12)
51. Romulans Arrive Pt.2 (4:35)
52. Talking To Data (6:32)
53. The Crew Leaves As One (1:24)
54. Blue Skies (2:46)
55. Star Trek Picard Episode 110 End Credits (Full Version) (2:10)

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Oh I really hope they have a "Volume 2 only" option. Because I can imagine this costing twice the price...and I already bought Volume 1 frown frown frown

On the bright side, at least they didn't short-change the second half of the season.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Oh I really hope they have a "Volume 2 only" option. Because I can imagine this costing twice the price...and I already bought Volume 1 frown frown frown

On the bright side, at least they didn't short-change the second half of the season.


Agreed all around.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Wait, wait, wait... hold up!

Star Trek: Picard had a musical score???

I must have forgotten that when I purged the show from my memory.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Wait, wait, wait... hold up!

Star Trek: Picard had a musical score???

I must have forgotten that when I purged the show from my memory.


I am sorry that you can't find anything there to enjoy. I am glad we got the show and Russo's score, but to each his own.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Only $10 on Google Play. Was expecting a full $20 price tag, so this was a welcome surprise. I'm not sure why that first press release mentioned additional tracks from the first half of the season. The only new material is all second half music.

Since it's already past 1:30 in the morning, there's too much to listen to at the moment. I did skip around to a few tracks. So far, I find myself leaning more toward the initially released material, but I'd rather not give an opinion without having time to really listen to the new material in its entirety.

There are some pretty good tracks here though. "Elnor Fights Narissa", "Picard Bids Farewell", and "Hologram Meeting" (the music is just as quirky as the scene was!) are a few cues that stand out for me so far.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   cirithungol   (Member)

Wait, wait, wait... hold up!

Star Trek: Picard had a musical score???

I must have forgotten that when I purged the show from my memory.


Should have been called Star Trek: JL, because Picard was nowhere to be seen.

As for the music, it sounded perfectly fine but very far removed from what came before, which sadly only made it feel even less like Star Trek. I guess it suits the show well in that regard, since it's just a generic sci-fi filled with graphic violence, F-bombs and a plot stolen from Mass Efffect.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   CrazyQuark   (Member)

Interesting to see all these different opinions.

I'm for one having big problems with making both Discovery & Picard part of my personal headcanon for Star Trek, but that doesn't translate to the music.

Yes, it's different from what came before, but I love the fact it's very thematic. Works for me, so I have at least no problem for accepting the music as part of the Star Trek universe. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Only $10 on Google Play. Was expecting a full $20 price tag, so this was a welcome surprise. I'm not sure why that first press release mentioned additional tracks from the first half of the season. The only new material is all second half music.


Yes, the lower price is a welcome surprise and I don't feel too bad about double dipping on Part 1.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I like the music in PICARD. I think the main title is a bit too understated, really, but I suppose that sets you up for the show itself being a bit languidly paced. The underscore itself is showing a lot of variety, although surprisingly there's a bit of temp love in there which I don't remember hearing as much on DISCOVERY.

Overall, I've been happy with Russo's music on these shows. I thought DISCOVERY 1 didn't always leave a huge impression, musically, but he did some great work in DISCOVERY 2 and there have been a lot of interesting components to his music for PICARD 1.

As for the show itself, I thought PICARD was massively disappointing, especially toward the end of the season. I hated what they did with the main characters. I really don't understand the modern impulse to take beloved heroes from 20-30 years ago and to set them in a world where everything has gone to hell and people have depressing terminal illnesses, et al.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Now that it's been a week removed from the finale, I find myself feeling a bit different about the show--in a negative sense. I definitely question the colossal development with Picard's mind being transferred into a synth as that seems to be jumping the shark, but I think the thing I'm realizing most is that many of the secondary characters ended up pretty underdeveloped and non-memorable...and they shouldn't have been.

Additionally, the Romulan threat turned out to be a huge nothing in the end, and they gave up way too easily!

In the same vein, the extra-galactic Uber-Synth threat was just as monumentally disappointing I hope that gets revisited in Season 2 because I can't imagine they won't coming looking for the Federation much like the Borg did after Q's little stunt.

On the plus side, the show managed to be nostalgic with its Next Generation characters in a rather natural way. It made sense for Hugh to be on the Borg Cube. Seven's inclusion made sense for her character too. Data's presence in the simulation made sense too. Riker and Troi were handled very well. Overall, the few characters that they brought back had a function and weren't just trotted out for show.

Isa Briones definitely stole the show in her multiple roles except that Soji's sudden anti-organic turn in the last episode was too rushed--much like Anakin's turn to the Dark Side TBH.

I haven't watched Discovery nor listened to the music, so I can't comment on the quality. However, I really enjoy Russo's themes in Picard a great deal, and I'm eager to hear what he comes up with for Season 2.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

It made sense for Hugh to be on the Borg Cube. Seven's inclusion made sense for her character too

I don't think ANYTHING about the Borg cube made sense, nor did it seem to be relevant to the season's overall plot. We later learn that Bruce Maddox sent Soji to the artifact to learn "the truth" about the synth ban. What truth could she have possibly learned there? It was full of Romulans attempting to take parts out of ex-communicated Borg so they could presumably sell them and make money? She had no reason to really be there, and that entire storyline went nowhere.

Likewise, what could Dahj have learned at the Daystrom Institute? It was a ghost town and Maddox himself used to work there! He also used to have a relationship with Dr. Jurati, who was still there would probably respond to a text or something if he had bothered to send one. Nothing about how this season was set up makes any sense.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I don't think ANYTHING about the Borg cube made sense, nor did it seem to be relevant to the season's overall plot.

For me, it was pretty much the only really meaningful plot thread. They just didn't explore it enough.

The idea of de-assimilating the Borg on the cube and the consequences/reactions to that could've been enough to be the foundation of the whole season. It would definitely be meaningful for Picard. It would've given ample opportunity to beef up the story arcs for Hugh and Seven of Nine. Having the Romulans would make sense too. Granted, this wasn't spelled out in the movie (you had to go to the canonized comic book prequel), but Nero's ship in the Abrams reboot was infused with Borg technology.

I think you may be confusing two plot points. The black market Borg harvesting wasn't the Romulans on the cube. That was only in Episode 5 and involved the traffickers on Freecloud.

As far as the rest of your points, I think you're spot-on accurate. The whole "truth about the ban" never amounted to anything. Daystrom was pointless. So was Commodore Oh's character.

Like I said, now that I've had time to reflect on it, there were many misfires this season. Hopefully, the next season will be better.

Hopefully.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I think you may be confusing two plot points. The black market Borg harvesting wasn't the Romulans on the cube. That was only in Episode 5 and involved the traffickers on Freecloud.

While you're correct that that's what's happening in the "Borg Chop Shop" in 105, at the beginning of 103 there's dialogue between Soji and Narek when they're in bed together (during the fly-through of the of Borg Cube at the beginning of the episode) which indicates that that's what the Romulans are doing on The Artifact as well. The Romulans don't care about helping the xBs... they just want the technology. So, the Romulans are essentially doing the same thing that Bjayzl's group is, but the Romulans are being a bit more civilized about it.

I agree that it might have been a nice foundation for what an alternate version of this season could have been about! Toward the end of 106, Picard promises Hugh that he'll advocate for xB rights. I wonder if he's actually do it in future seasons.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

While you're correct that that's what's happening in the "Borg Chop Shop" in 105, at the beginning of 103 there's dialogue between Soji and Narek when they're in bed together (during the fly-through of the of Borg Cube at the beginning of the episode) that that's what the Romulans are doing on The Artifact as well. The Romulans don't care about helping the xBs... they just want the technology. So, the Romulans are essentially doing the same thing that Bjayzl's group is, but the Romulans are being a bit more civilized about it.

I agree that it might have been a nice foundation for what an alternate version of this season could have been about! Toward the end of 106, Picard promises Hugh that he'll advocate for xB rights. I wonder if he's actually do it in future seasons.


Did they? I completely missed that part! I probably won't be revisiting the show, but thank you for clearing that up for me

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2020 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

So the cues in the finale are missing that use the TMP theme. Real nice.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2020 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

That final track, "Star Trek Picard Episode 110 End Credits (Full Version)," is quite something. I love that kind of lively rhythm, almost like a bourrée. Nice.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   JeffG   (Member)

Lakeshore Records actually is offering free upgrades for those that purchased the "Chapter 1" album. If you send your receipt to completemypicard@gmail.com, they will send you a unique code to download the full season 1 album (in either MP3 or 24-bit/48kHz FLAC) from Bandcamp. It is incredibly cool that they decided to do this, although I wish they had publicized it earlier. I had held off buying the new album in the hope there would be a cheaper "chapter 2" release, but I would guess some have already purchased it unnecessarily.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Yes, that would be me. Oh, well. At just 10 bucks it wasn't too much of a loss.

 
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