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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

I'm just trying to figure out how the Music is transcribed. Are there score materials for all three titles or is it a case of Mr Phillips just rewinding the film clips over & over againvabd listening in? How on earth would you be able to discern instrumental lines & orchestration underneath dialogue & sounds effects?

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

I'm just trying to figure out how the Music is transcribed. Are there score materials for all three titles or is it a case of Mr Phillips just rewinding the film clips over & over againvabd listening in? How on earth would you be able to discern instrumental lines & orchestration underneath dialogue & sounds effects?

You got it in one, Stravinsky!

Unfortunately, the musical materials are AWOL so these will, indeed, be done via takedown. Fortunately, the music is generally mixed quite nicely so most of it is pretty clear.

Believe me when I say I worked with worse (NB. "The Salamander" and "The Thief of Bagdad" are two which immediately spring to mind!)

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I imagine that these smaller ensemble scores are also easier to pick out by ear as compared with say, The Salamander which had a larger orchestra... right, Leigh? (That's setting aside the fact that The Salamander also had a poor mix and loud action FX obscuring a lot of the music, of course.)

Also, as noted earlier we do have one cue (the first one, "Meet Mr. Wright") on Pursuit, thanks to Neumation Music digging it up. This means we have the exact instrumental breakdown of the score too. Alas, no luck with the rest. We do fortunately also have Jerry's original cue titles on all three scores, thanks to the expert research skills of Jon Burlingame.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

I imagine that these smaller ensemble scores are also easier to pick out by ear as compared with say, The Salamander which had a larger orchestra... right, Leigh? (That's setting aside the fact that The Salamander also had a poor mix and loud action FX obscuring a lot of the music, of course.)

Also, as noted earlier we do have one cue (the first one, "Meet Mr. Wright") on Pursuit, thanks to Neumation Music digging it up. This means we have the exact instrumental breakdown of the score too. Alas, no luck with the rest. We do fortunately also have Jerry's original cue titles on all three scores, thanks to the expert research skills of Jon Burlingame.

Yavar


On balance, yes, the smaller ensemble stuff is a little easier to pick out and usually more lightly scored (time wise)...but you never *really* know until you start. I mean, I spent about 2 hours on a short cue from "Legend that Walks Like a Man", mainly due to Ernest Borgnine! So, yeah; you never can tell 100%.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

My back-of-envelope math shows about $800 remaining to unlock the stretch goal, as of this post. So if just 40 more people pledge at the CD level, that should cover it? Seems like a very attainable goal for the last 5 days of the campaign ... especially since that number will get even lower if enough folks increase their pledge even slightly.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

I'm just trying to figure out how the Music is transcribed. Are there score materials for all three titles or is it a case of Mr Phillips just rewinding the film clips over & over againvabd listening in? How on earth would you be able to discern instrumental lines & orchestration underneath dialogue & sounds effects?

You got it in one, Stravinsky!

Unfortunately, the musical materials are AWOL so these will, indeed, be done via takedown. Fortunately, the music is generally mixed quite nicely so most of it is pretty clear.

Believe me when I say I worked with worse (NB. "The Salamander" and "The Thief of Bagdad" are two which immediately spring to mind!)


Good god man you must have Panasonic Ears! How the hell do you do it? Do you at least have a Music & Effects track to work with so that dialogue is absent at least? I can't imagine how you are able to replicate a full score if all you have is the finished product (i.e just the film itself). How on this Earth do you accomplish this? It's astonishing. Some of Goldsmith is so complex that it would be like trying to transcribe Mahler 5 or something. Needles in haystack. What would fascinate me would be to compare your findings with the original scores (say they miraculously turned up after all of the painstaking laborious work you've done) and see what the differences were. Not many I bet! Good on ye! Aw the best fae sunny Scotland!

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

How do I change my pledge to include The People Next Door sdd on? I don't see any mention of it on the Kickstarter page. Do I just up my pledge?

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

How do I change my pledge to include The People Next Door sdd on? I don't see any mention of it on the Kickstarter page. Do I just up my pledge?

Yes. If the stretch goal is reached, The People Next Door will be added to the recording for everybody. You don't have to (and can't) allocate it specifically for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

How do I change my pledge to include The People Next Door sdd on? I don't see any mention of it on the Kickstarter page. Do I just up my pledge?

Everyone who has pledged will get People Next Door if the next goal is reached - about $21,100ish. It's not an optional add-on, a stretch goal is an expansion to the original plan once original funding has been met and exceeded. So you don't need to up your pledge, but you can if you want to to help reach that next funding goal.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I can understand some folks being confused because for Leigh's very first campaign (The Bar Mitzvah of Major Orlovsky), Sarah's Laughter was added on as a stretch goal that folks had to chip in another £3 to get. But Kickstarter makes that kind of thing such a pain (as compared with Indiegogo) that it just didn't make sense to do that again, so on Leigh's final GE Theater campaign, Autumn Love was added as a different sort of stretch goal where nobody had to chip in extra to get it; the overall goal for it just had to be met and then all backers would get it as a free bonus.

That's the case with this one for The People Next Door too. When the goal is met, everyone will get the third score without being required to up their pledge any further. It's also a matter of pure practicality in reward distribution in this case, since a CD is an option up front as opposed to just downloads as was the case before! (Whereas it's easy to having different download folders for different backers, it wouldn't make much sense to press some CDs with two Goldsmith scores, and some with three Goldsmith scores for the ones who chipped in extra, now would it? smile )

Anyhow, very soon now it looks like for their £12 (for lossless CD quality digital download w/ PDF liner notes booklet and therefore no additional shipping charge) or £15 (for CD edition, plus shipping) all backers will soon be getting a full hour of Goldsmith goodness on this upcoming album!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

you must have Panasonic Ears!

Those are some great words. I like that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2024 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Thanks for the info and help guys. I have just upped my pledge.
Looking forward to it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Four days to go to get a third, full score added. Stats this morning:


Stretch - pledged = left to go

$21,171.11 - $20,699.00 = $472.11 . . . $558 less than yesterday
€18,951.00 - €18,533.88 = €417.12 . . . €503 less than yesterday
£15,833.60 - £15,480.52 = £353.08 . . . £419 less than yesterday

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

As of now only 140 € needed with 4 days to go. I guess it's fair to say THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR is part of this recording project.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

Good god man you must have Panasonic Ears!

Actually they're a pair of Sennheiser HD25s! I've used them to do takedowns for the last 20yrs (I bought them at a music expo in 2004).

Oddly enough, about 12 years ago I invested in a set of Sennheiser HD600s...3 weeks later I was back to the old 25s! x-))

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Just over $50 to go!

€45!

£38!

¥7,100!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

$21,171.11 - $21,154.00 = $17
€18,951.00 - €18,935.68 = €16
£15,833.60 - £15,820.80 = £12.8

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Only one more backer to put the stretch goal across the finish line! Who’s gonna do it? smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Only one more backer to put the stretch goal across the finish line! Who’s gonna do it? smile

"Spitting Distance," I'll wager!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2024 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

So exciting!

 
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