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Jul 17, 2010 - 4:55 PM
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Olivier
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Great news !
Congratulations, LLL !
Predators
I trust John Debney on this one, so I'll certainly get it.
Krull
Splendid as it is, I'm afraid I'll have to pass for this time, since I have the clamshell edition.
I strongly urge anyon who has not heard a note of it to at least play the samples, and order this sumptuous score.
Batman
An instant purchase; I'm already standing ready to order-- darn, it's gonna be a long 9 days 
My first score albums ever were E.T., Gremlins, Ghostbusters, and Batman, but the former and the latter were the only ones that were truly score-only albums.
It was a beautiful night when I got out of the theater after seeing it, and the sky and mood were just right for the Batwing had it happened to fly by.
I am already looking forward to Batman Returns a lot; I have never understood why so many people considered both film & score as lowly sequels; the movie was good, and the music splendid (and yes: richer than in the first movie-- more themes & livelier).
On a personal note, this is also a great end to four terrible nights & days of exhausitng sickness ! Thanks !
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Jul 17, 2010 - 6:18 PM
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TerraEpon
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i don't get these 2cd sets where the second cd is a 'remastered' copy of the origianl soundtrack lp.
In the case of BATMAN, Lll is asking/making fans of the score to pay 10 bucks for something they all have plus a few alt. tracks.
This continies the trend of recent releases of STAR TREK II & III, BLACK STALLION, BOYS FROM BRAZIL et al.
Now , there is some justification for repackaging an ost that is oop & htf but BATMAN redux?!
Speaking as a consumer of retro score, this new promotional trend is a a barrier to purchase.
The additional price (OUTLAND) and lack of new material (BATMAN) is keeping these excellent titles out my 'cart'.
talk amungst yerselves
Well I don't like it either, but in this case there seems to be differences in various ways. Plus the score + bonus tracks wouldn't have fit on one CD, so most people will say "it's a bonus". Same with Wind and the Lion -- there was no room for the whole score + source on a single CD.
The one I think that annoys me most is Black Stallion, as it could have very easily fit on two discs, without even changing the stopping point of disc one. Would have saved everyone money, on both sides, as well as take up less space.
I have skipped some (and sold Lifeforce) because of this trend, though.
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Jul 17, 2010 - 6:25 PM
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LeHah
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i don't get these 2cd sets where the second cd is a 'remastered' copy of the origianl soundtrack lp.
In the case of BATMAN, Lll is asking/making fans of the score to pay 10 bucks for something they all have plus a few alt. tracks.
This continies the trend of recent releases of STAR TREK II & III, BLACK STALLION, BOYS FROM BRAZIL et al.
Now , there is some justification for repackaging an ost that is oop & htf but BATMAN redux?!
Speaking as a consumer of retro score, this new promotional trend is a a barrier to purchase.
The additional price (OUTLAND) and lack of new material (BATMAN) is keeping these excellent titles out my 'cart'.
talk amungst yerselves
Well I don't like it either, but in this case there seems to be differences in various ways. Plus the score + bonus tracks wouldn't have fit on one CD, so most people will say "it's a bonus". Same with Wind and the Lion -- there was no room for the whole score + source on a single CD.
The one I think that annoys me most is Black Stallion, as it could have very easily fit on two discs, without even changing the stopping point of disc one. Would have saved everyone money, on both sides, as well as take up less space.
I have skipped some (and sold Lifeforce) because of this trend, though.
I have a recipe. Its a really good dish and everyone enjoys it. It becomes the dish that I'm known for.
Some time later, I punch up the dish. I add slightly different ingredients that weren't available before and it not only gives the dish new life but brings out new flavors, new colors, new spices that were hidden before. What was once great is now amazing.
And some of the people who originally like it turn their nose up at it. Not because they dislike the dish but they don't see why they should be paying for something they've already had and already enjoyed. But thats okay, since the chef is laughing the whole way to the bank and you're stuck at home eating frozen microwaveable pizza.
If thats what you want, then more power to you but I like a good meal.
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Well I don't like it either, but in this case there seems to be differences in various ways. Plus the score + bonus tracks wouldn't have fit on one CD, so most people will say "it's a bonus". Same with Wind and the Lion -- there was no room for the whole score + source on a single CD.
The same was true of Star Trek III. Even if the source music suite and pop version track had been left off, there would not have been room on one CD for the complete final film version of the score AND the four alternate album versions (which were the lengthier cues). I find it extremely inconsistent of you to be okay with Batman (which if I'm not mistaken will have much more duplication between the two discs than STIII's measly four tracks) yet boycott and criticise FSM's superb release.
Yavar
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RE: Preserving Album Presentation
Personally, I don't mind this at all, especially in cases like Alien, The Wind and The Lion, Alien and Star Trek III.
The main reason is that the album cues are often edited differently, especially with Trek III, and the way it was presented on LP or initial release is very much part of the score's history.
In the case of Trek II, they didn't do this, but left instructions on how to recreate the album experience, which worked very well for that CD. Same for Twilight Zone: the Movie.
But in those cases, of course, there was little to no alternate material from the LP that wasn't in the expanded score.
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RE: Subject of the thread
Batman: THIS one I will DEFINATELY pick up (well, have someone pick it up from Comic-Con), and is absolutely a must have.
Predators: I may pick this up later, but I'm in no rush.
Krull: This looks like another nice presentation, but I already have the SuperTracks release, which is complete and sounds pretty good. It should still be a good seller for LaLaLand though.
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Jul 19, 2010 - 11:54 AM
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Thor
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My thoughts on these three titles, all of whom I have a connection to:
BATMAN - Nice to see Elfman getting some attention, but I am of course pleased with the old soundtrack, which was more or less perfect both in terms of sound and presentation. Hopefully, though, LaLaLand will turn its heard towards unreleased Elfman scores eventually. Then I'm there, C&C or not!
KRULL - I've had the 2CD Super Tracks thingie for years, but never really played it very much. It has one or two highlights, but for the most part there's too much horror and sneaking-around music for my taste. So I'm passing on this (I am, in fact, trying to GIVE my ol ST release away for free, but nobody wants it....I guess it will be even more difficult now). However, it would be interesting if someone would reissue the single-disc, LP program (Southern Cross, was it??) in a remastered format. I'd buy it!
PREDATORS - I don't like much bombastic action music these days, and I'm not really a big fan of Debney's (he's good at pastiche, but you can only have so much of that), so it doesn't bode too well, especially not since it's a full, 70+ minute release. However, I liked the old Silvestri score, so if there are a few nods to that and if the album has been arranged with calmer, softer cues inbetween the action, it may not be too bad.
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