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Feb 27, 2011 - 12:13 PM
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JamesFitz
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I caught up with this film on DVD -- it had been more than forty years! -- and now understand about the source music. The film has lots of it. So do most large historical "epics." But where everybody wants to hear the source music from QUO VADIS and CLEOPATRA, etc., most people seem not to care about that in TARAS. I'm pretty sure that Waxman was in charge, as were Rozsa, North, et al. So why the discrepancy? I note that most of the source music in TARAS is vocal rather than instrumental. But the same is true of QUO VADIS, and I think almost everybody would want to hear those vocals. It's a curious thing. Is there any other big historical score where listener interest is exclusively focused on the nondiegetic portion of the score?
Well, I made my case in an above post for recording as much of the TARAS source music as possible. What James has said above about recording "some additional material from TARAS .... more for historical interest than anything else" is very encouraging.
Now, if only he could find a sound-alike for Yul Brynner's voice...
Hmmm! Perhaps William McCrum's unique vocal talents are required... 
Mr Keith Ferreira ... Silva Screen Records finance director ... is rather good at vocals having done Guns of Navarone, True Grit etc.. for me ... as well as some songs from THE KING & I.... so he will be my first port of call
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'If we drink we will die!
If we don’t drink we will die!
So we might as well say
“What the hell”
And let our glasses clink!
Whatever your name
You’ll be dying just the same!
So as long as we are going to die
It’s better if we drink!'
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Another interesting thing about the movie. The famous Ride to Dubno is quite different from the classic concert/album version. Toward the climax, there is a fade out -- fade in where the music pauses completely. Before it continues, there is some on-screen drumming from mounted Cossacks. I wonder if this hiatus was dictated by a reel change. Somebody should do a history of the reel change someday -- its technical challenges for music editing and the technology that eventually overcame the problem.
I believe that that is the DVD, John, doing a layer change. The old LaserDisc and VHS releases had no such problem. Try playing the DVD on another machine or on your computer player and you may get a different result.
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Hmmm! Perhaps William McCrum's unique vocal talents are required...
Thanks for that, George, that was an eye-popper post for me there! ... but, although I can do a passingly good Brynner SPEAKING voice, singing takes another whole level of accuracy, and you often lose the characterisation.
But hey, if there's a last resort thing, I'll look into it!
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James, your comments about what you've recorded are making me salivate. My co-workers are giving me dirty looks because of all of the drool I'm producing in anticipation.
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It's nothing to do with a DVD layer change. As Rozsaphile says, the scene of the riders fades to black and then there is a fade in to the group of drummers, following on from which the music fades in again.
I thought so too, Doug, until I played the DVD on another player. Suddenly there was no fade out/fade in.
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Thanks for that, George, that was an eye-popper post for me there! ... but, although I can do a passingly good Brynner SPEAKING voice, singing takes another whole level of accuracy, and you often lose the characterisation.
But hey, if there's a last resort thing, I'll look into it!
Well, if Mr. Ferreira declines the offer, I'm sure "Yul" be more than suitable.
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