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Coincidentally I also listened to The Rocketeer in my car this week... and I thought it sounded great - no complaints about sound quality at all on this end. I'm more concerned by the odd programming choice to put the pop songs, source music, and concert arrangement intermingled into the main program, instead of after the end credits as bonus tracks. Especially since doing so caused me to have to take out Disc 1 and put in Disc 2 to finish the main program. I understand that Horner was proud of the pop song arrangements, but moving them to the end of the second disc would have let his entire glorious score (including the source cue and concert arrangement) fit on one amazing disc of awesomeness. And Disc 2 could have had the classic OST presentation start right on Track #1. Oh well. Yeah, this was my main issue. And that I didn't really like the entirety of The Rocketeer score like I thought I would. Horner programmed the perfect selection of his material with the Hollywood album.
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Coincidentally I also listened to The Rocketeer in my car this week... and I thought it sounded great - no complaints about sound quality at all on this end. I'm more concerned by the odd programming choice to put the pop songs, source music, and concert arrangement intermingled into the main program, instead of after the end credits as bonus tracks. Especially since doing so caused me to have to take out Disc 1 and put in Disc 2 to finish the main program. I understand that Horner was proud of the pop song arrangements, but moving them to the end of the second disc would have let his entire glorious score (including the source cue and concert arrangement) fit on one amazing disc of awesomeness. And Disc 2 could have had the classic OST presentation start right on Track #1. Oh well. There are a LOT of albums, including Intrada ones, that are not produced for my own personal taste. In those cases I select my own program and cut a new CD-R and then also map that to iTunes. I like these projects because it gives me an excuse to really engage more with the music. You won't ever see a time when an album is produced to your own personal specs, but you do have the ability to create what you like.
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Sure, and its no big deal for me to burn a disc with just Horner's score and no pop songs at all, of course. But I would speculate that there'd be more customers that would have appreciated the whole score appearing on one disc, than customers that like having the pop songs come up in between score cues. Well, that doesn't matter now, what's done is done, and hopefully feedback obtained will be considered on future releases! I really hope Willow is in the works, speaking of Horner, Disney, and Intrada, BTW
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Sure, and its no big deal for me to burn a disc with just Horner's score and no pop songs at all, of course. But I would speculate that there'd be more customers that would have appreciated the whole score appearing on one disc, than customers that like having the pop songs come up in between score cues. Well, that doesn't matter now, what's done is done, and hopefully feedback obtained will be considered on future releases! I really hope Willow is in the works, speaking of Horner, Disney, and Intrada, BTW You would speculate, but it would be off. There's never any pleasing everyone with any release, but we get a lot of email from folks who love the album. So there is nothing to redo in our eyes on this one.
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Count me as one who loves it. The ideal might well have been to move the source cues and keep the score on the first disk in this case, but there's nothing actually wrong with this release, IMHO. Just a minor "ideal preference". Oh, and Thanks Roger + Company.
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OK by me Roger, keep up the good work
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Count me as one who loves it. The ideal might well have been to move the source cues and keep the score on the first disk in this case, but there's nothing actually wrong with this release, IMHO. Just a minor "ideal preference". Oh, and Thanks Roger + Company. And for the record my personal version removed the source cues!
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I KNEW it! While I have your ear, any reason why the booklet didn't contain the Reel/Part and Take used information like the majority of your releases?
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I KNEW it! While I have your ear, any reason why the booklet didn't contain the reel/part and Take used information like the majority of your releases? Usually we include that when there's a lot of assembly work. Since Horner writes in long cues and some assembly was not required, it would not have differed much from the track list.
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Sep 29, 2016 - 2:23 PM
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Sure, and its no big deal for me to burn a disc with just Horner's score and no pop songs at all, of course. But I would speculate that there'd be more customers that would have appreciated the whole score appearing on one disc, than customers that like having the pop songs come up in between score cues. Well, that doesn't matter now, what's done is done, and hopefully feedback obtained will be considered on future releases! I really hope Willow is in the works, speaking of Horner, Disney, and Intrada, BTW Speaking of Horner and Intrada, all I have to say is Apollo 13. Loving The Rocketeer and since I put everything straight into iTunes the album plays all the way through including songs without changing discs
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I'm in the "It's terrific how it is" camp. I can understand the issue with the disc break, but I always import to digital, so that wasn't a worry for me. This was one of my favorite releases this year. The Gizmo is my favorite track I never knew I wanted. Thanks to all involved!
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Sure, and its no big deal for me to burn a disc with just Horner's score and no pop songs at all, of course. But I would speculate that there'd be more customers that would have appreciated the whole score appearing on one disc, than customers that like having the pop songs come up in between score cues. Well, that doesn't matter now, what's done is done, and hopefully feedback obtained will be considered on future releases! I really hope Willow is in the works, speaking of Horner, Disney, and Intrada, BTW Speaking of Horner and Intrada, all I have to say is Apollo 13. Loving The Rocketeer and since I put everything straight into iTunes the album plays all the way through including songs without changing discs Apollo 13... definitely atop my want list for Horner !!!! I have a copy of the OST and the Promo, and I don't think there's much more music than the ultra-rare promo contains, but this is certainly deserving of a definitive score release. I'd like to add Sneakers to that pile of "wants" too. There are some great moments not on the OST, with some interesting thematic variations from the 3rd act of the movie.
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I absolutely love the Intrada approach of not altering the dynamics of the original recordings. Maybe it`s because I don`t own a car and thus never listen to filmmusic while driving but usually listen to the music at home with my headphones. And in this case the music sounds best uncompressed. I sometimes find the LLL but especially the Varese Club sound just too harsh and loud. Sometimes it actually sounds distorted in my headphones. And thus I have no problems whatsoever with Intrada`s Rocketeer. I`ve listened to it several times now and I am very pleased with the dynamic range and the sonic quality.
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I gave these discs a couple of spins today for the first time, and this may sound a bit weird but it almost felt like the slightly subdued full score is just the warm-up for the climactic original program on disc 2, so in that sense it worked fine for me as a double-disc set (although I would have preferred it all to sound like that original program). And I've got no problem with the sequencing as I really enjoy the songs, and they don't spoil the listening experience at all like some others do. EDIT: I think Roger mentioned previously about the awful brick-walling on Brian Tyler's "Battle Los Angeles" CD, so I'd love a remaster of that if there is the opportunity. I can't even play that one in the car at all without the speakers buzzing and vibrating all the time. Not me, that was Doug. I was driven crazy by Peggy Sue.
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Sep 29, 2016 - 5:05 PM
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Coincidentally I also listened to The Rocketeer in my car this week... and I thought it sounded great - no complaints about sound quality at all on this end. I'm more concerned by the odd programming choice to put the pop songs, source music, and concert arrangement intermingled into the main program, instead of after the end credits as bonus tracks. Especially since doing so caused me to have to take out Disc 1 and put in Disc 2 to finish the main program. I understand that Horner was proud of the pop song arrangements, but moving them to the end of the second disc would have let his entire glorious score (including the source cue and concert arrangement) fit on one amazing disc of awesomeness. And Disc 2 could have had the classic OST presentation start right on Track #1. Oh well. There are a LOT of albums, including Intrada ones, that are not produced for my own personal taste. In those cases I select my own program and cut a new CD-R and then also map that to iTunes. I like these projects because it gives me an excuse to really engage more with the music. You won't ever see a time when an album is produced to your own personal specs, but you do have the ability to create what you like. I'm on the side of "Loving it" . Granted I don't have a swell audio system at home, so for me it's either listening in the car, or on my MP3 player. But for me it sounds great. Not crazy about the songs or source cues in the current program, but as said above, I make my own playlist anyway. Nothing but a win. Cutthroat Island also works great for me. I kinda miss the climactic cues being a mammoth 17 minute extravaganza, but if it's that much of a thing, I can mix it myself. The album sounds WAY better than the earlier ones, the package design is beautiful, the notes are great. So there
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Sep 29, 2016 - 6:48 PM
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Not even that. They only had to take "Jenny's Theme" off disc 1 and everything else would have fit fine. "Jenny's Theme" was written specifically for the album so didn't belong on disc 1 in the first place! Actually they could have fit it on all in disc one. It totals out to 81:48. A high number, but I have probably three or four CDs longer than that. (though, they are probably all on the BIS label). Still, yeah, it's weird that it's repeated (to say nothing of the two songs, though at least those are in the film) I don't think the score presentation sounds bad, and the difference between it and the album is small (though noticeable). But if you want to talk 'preference', mine would have been to have the full score (with or without the songs intermingled), Jenny's Theme at the end, and then actually different album versions, no redundant tracks at all. One release I think that does this right is LLL's Batman Returns - which might have been for reasons of playtime, but regardless is exactly the way I wish it would always be done. I've noted before I've skipped a few releases (Elfman's POTA is a good example) because I thought the repetition was too much...but The Rocketeer gets a pass because I do love the score so much. But you know what they say about pleasing all of the people...
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