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Accordions, damn accordions!
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oh well, I guess Mrs. Riotengine won't be getting that new dishwasher after al
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Jul 13, 2017 - 3:50 AM
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Hurdy Gurdy
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I was gonna wax lyrical about this release, but Graham's post earlier says pretty much all of my thoughts, with a 5-6 year add on difference.
I picked up the LP from Probe Records in Liverpool around '81/82. There was a whole batch of rare/old Goldsmith LP's just lying there with my name on them. They were all priced around £5 and I was new in work, living at home with the folks, everything was good 
The Silva disc served me through the CD years.
And now this is the crowning glory.
Yes, the two action tracks and WatL-like cues rolling together don't make for a optimal listening experience and the bare bones theme renditions play more like source. I will probably position Gift From The Sea between the two Jerry action licks, to break up the similarity.
It's the sound on this one that astounds.
It wipes the floor with all previous releases, revealing details and nuances never before heard.
The booklet and notes are also superb.
For overall packaging, sound and quality at the moment, LaLaLand and Quartet are tops for me.
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That's funny since both editions of The Fury (the film recording) used the same elements. It was just a matter of the eq and not having it be so dry. Poltergeist was a similar situation. Same element for the 1997 Rhino and 2008 FSM. It was just a matter of what was done with it in mixing and mastering. The Papillon element was completely different from previous releases and a revelation to my ear.
Mike M.
Interestingly, I never thought the LaLaLand THE FURY sounded all that much better than the Varese, so I never bothered to pick it up (since I was very satisfied with the Varese). And while I have both the FSM and the Rhino POLTERGEIST, I find the differences in sound quality marginal, not revelatory. But PAPILLON... that's like hearing a brand new recording of it, so different does it sound from both previous CD releases.
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Weren't such arrangements done back in the old days to be played on radio stations to help promote the movie? I mostly caught such things as a kid as they played over the P.A.s in department and grocery stores.
Childhood memories are a bit unreliable, but the first time I played the Papillon LP after I bought it as a blind buy around 1984 I was sure I recognised the theme from hearing it on the radio about ten years earlier...
As I remember, so much of the appeal of collecting Goldsmith music (back when I started, around 1983 with Psycho II) was in delightful recognition - what I suppose we now have to categorise as nostalgia...
SG
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I always assumed that it was just a listener-friendly version concocted by Goldsmith as a good opening to the LP back in '73. Is there more to it than that?
Not that I'm aware of.
Perhaps you're right and it should be moved down to a lower section
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Got my copy yesterday and have been playing it non stop ever since. I had some technical manuals to write today so I enjoyed listening to this score while doing layouts. Amazing music and the sound is spectacular
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Jul 14, 2017 - 2:24 AM
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Graham Watt
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Re: the radio station promos theory... isn't 2 mins-plus terribly loooooooong for a radio spot (if that's what we're talking about)? I'm no expert (you knew that already) but the way my mind works tells me that you've got to get these things out on the radio in a slap-bang-wallop tantalising titillating way - and between songs or "important stuff" (depending on the station in question) - so I imagine that a 20 second burst (composed specifically or not) would be enough.
I'm not talking about a radio spot advertising the movie. I mean a version of the theme meant for the "Easy Listening" of "Instrumental" stations of the time. It would be played just as a song would be. Man, I can remember that theme from '68's "Romeo & Juliet" being played to death. And you did hear such things as part of the "muzak" in stores. Still do.
Something doesn't ring quite true with me there, Rory... I know that there have been hundreds of easy listening instrumentals of film themes meant for radio play (and record consumption if/ when released on album or as a single), but I can't think of that ever happening in Goldsmith's case. And here I'm not talking about other artists covering Goldsmith's themes, but Goldsmith himself doing an easy listening version of one of his themes for the muzak market. In PAPILLON's case, it doesn't even sound "easy-listening" enough for those purposes.
But as I say, I don't know, and you might be right. Was the LP released concurrent with the film, or a while afterwards due to its success? I'd still bet five dollars maximum that he wrote that theme so as the LP would kick off in a nice way for "normal" people, and then it was played on radio stations from that source.
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Golly gosh, I've just done some "research" and - apart from the umpteen vocal versions - there have been dozens of easy listening versions of the theme from many different artists, some more artiistic than others. There's even one on an album called "The Best of Ballroom".
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