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 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Mine says Out for Delivery! big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

I placed an order on 10/02, yet no shipping notice. confused

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I placed an order on 10/02, yet no shipping notice. confused

." It's Varese, Jake. It's Varese".

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   BrandonJF72   (Member)

I got my shipping notice on the same day it was delivered.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

Brill - got my shipping notice - thanx Varese. I am hoping...!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

I got my shipping notice on the same day it was delivered.

I hope yours was intact, my jewel case was broken.
They don't make them nor even ship them like they used to any more.

Any way this is the last of my most requested expanded scores.....As I look at my collection, I don't see anything else . Even Robocop 2 is there!
Air Force One was the 6th or 7th CD I've ever owned. I bought it at a time when I just started to buy scores the first 3 or 4 years and I wasn't really paying attention to the composer's name on the cover. I just knew them as the music from this and that movie. It wasn't until I was listening to the Hi-Jack track, that I questioned "who did this?!".
Jerry Goldsmith? Sounds familiar. Then I realized that I had another score by Jerry Goldsmith I bought 2 or 3 years earlier. Medicine Man! Then I started looking at my other scores for the names of the composers.
Back then I got all my film score news and discussions from mostly the Usenet film music related newsgroup.
I had heard that the reuse fees for Varese was a big deal back then, and they couldn't release more music at the time, but then there were rumors of Joel McNeely's music being part of the problem also.

I forgot the story Does anyone know why Joel McNeely was brought in to co score this movie? Was he the first or second choice? Maybe the second because of Randy Newman. The CD Text reveals McNeely worked on at least 50% of this score!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

All I know is it was a two week time crunch and Jerry needed help, but I've never seen a specific reason why McNeely was the one chosen.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   BrandonJF72   (Member)


I hope yours was intact, my jewel case was broken.
They don't make them nor even ship them like they used to any more.


When I saw they are now shipping CDs in those vacuum sealed corrugated cardboard mailers which try to destroy the items they contain before they even hit the shipping process, I expected the worst. I had ordered Air Force One and Star Trek. I "only" ended up with a small crack on the back of the Air Force One jewel case.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 12:04 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I got my shipping notice on the same day it was delivered.

I hope yours was intact, my jewel case was broken.
They don't make them nor even ship them like they used to any more.

Any way this is the last of my most requested expanded scores.....As I look at my collection, I don't see anything else . Even Robocop 2 is there!
Air Force One was the 6th or 7th CD I've ever owned. I bought it at a time when I just started to buy scores the first 3 or 4 years and I wasn't really paying attention to the composer's name on the cover. I just knew them as the music from this and that movie. It wasn't until I was listening to the Hi-Jack track, that I questioned "who did this?!".
Jerry Goldsmith? Sounds familiar. Then I realized that I had another score by Jerry Goldsmith I bought 2 or 3 years earlier. Medicine Man! Then I started looking at my other scores for the names of the composers.
Back then I got all my film score news and discussions from mostly the Usenet film music related newsgroup.
I had heard that the reuse fees for Varese was a big deal back then, and they couldn't release more music at the time, but then there were rumors of Joel McNeely's music being part of the problem also.

I forgot the story Does anyone know why Joel McNeely was brought in to co score this movie? Was he the first or second choice? Maybe the second because of Randy Newman. The CD Text reveals McNeely worked on at least 50% of this score!



McNeely was brought on because of the tight deadline Goldsmith was working with. He needed to pass off a handful of scenes to get it done in time.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

The sound quality of this set is wonderful and I love it.

The setup though is a little weird. There's a few things from the pristine foot warmer that could have been included on here.

Also on the original foot warmer where the unreleased Goldsmith cues were in mono the "The Parachutes / Parachute Attack" that was the film version the way how it opened up is how it is in the "End Credits" so this leads me to believe that is how "The Parachutes" is originally meant to be.

Also another thing to point out with the pristine sounding foot warmer that has the film version take for "Target Air Force One". The one on this set is the alternate take.

I have made a thorough personal edit and I eliminated the "End Credits" track as it was nothing more than just edited material from a few cues. I did fix "The Parachutes" taking it from the "End Credits".

I also took the film versions and put them in the main body and took the alternates and put them as bonus tracks.

Oh and I also renamed the tracks that had "KV" to "Ivan". For example "KV and The Hostages". I renamed it to "Ivan and The Hostages". I am still puzzled as to who "KV" is...maybe a mistake on Goldsmith's part when he wrote the cue titles.

This is all personal preference of course. I'm glad to finally have the complete score though. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

All I know is it was a two week time crunch and Jerry needed help, but I've never seen a specific reason why McNeely was the one chosen.

Joel Goldsmith was meant to do the additional music but was unavailable. Robert Townson recommended McNeely.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

All I know is it was a two week time crunch and Jerry needed help, but I've never seen a specific reason why McNeely was the one chosen.

Robert Townson relates the entire story (well...without any mention of Joel Goldsmith) a little over an hour into Part 1 of my conversation with him. It involved connections made through the series of re-recordings he was doing at the time:
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1301242-odyssey-interviews-robert-townson-part-1

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The sound quality of this set is wonderful and I love it.

The setup though is a little weird. There's a few things from the pristine foot warmer that could have been included on here.

Also on the original foot warmer where the unreleased Goldsmith cues were in mono the "The Parachutes / Parachute Attack" that was the film version the way how it opened up is how it is in the "End Credits" so this leads me to believe that is how "The Parachutes" is originally meant to be.

Also another thing to point out with the pristine sounding foot warmer that has the film version take for "Target Air Force One". The one on this set is the alternate take.

I have made a thorough personal edit and I eliminated the "End Credits" track as it was nothing more than just edited material from a few cues. I did fix "The Parachutes" taking it from the "End Credits".

I also took the film versions and put them in the main body and took the alternates and put them as bonus tracks.

Oh and I also renamed the tracks that had "KV" to "Ivan". For example "KV and The Hostages". I renamed it to "Ivan and The Hostages". I am still puzzled as to who "KV" is...maybe a mistake on Goldsmith's part when he wrote the cue titles.

This is all personal preference of course. I'm glad to finally have the complete score though. smile


Can you closely listen to "Air Force One In Trouble" with headphones and report back?

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

So, the “Parachutes” as heard in the film (with extra trumpet) is part of the end titles on the new CD?

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

So, the “Parachutes” as heard in the film (with extra trumpet) is part of the end titles on the new CD?

Don't you mean "Parachute Attack"? That's the only cue that had the extra trumpets omitted from the album and that's Track 12 on Disc 2.

The way how the "End Credits" opens up in the film (the extra percussion) I'm pretty sure that's how "The Parachutes" was originally recorded.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ah I see. Still waiting to receive my copy.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)


Can you closely listen to "Air Force One In Trouble" with headphones and report back?


I'm not sure what you're wanting me to listen for?

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2019 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

Double post sorry.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2019 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Just finished working on this clip. It was a whopper. Here's Newman's rejected Hijacking cue restored with as much sound effects and dialogue as possible. I had to post it on Vimeo as Youtube will block it.

Check it out.

The Hijacking:
https://vimeo.com/365932818

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2019 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

not quite sure if i understand this mono opening up thing

BUT in alien 3 the TCF fanfare is also in mono except for the goldenthal insert opening that leads to the main title

that one is in stereo and sort of opening up the alien score from the mono-sounding fanfare smile

 
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