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Nov 29, 2010 - 11:34 AM
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JFrederik
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The same for me, as I live in Denmark. I feel ripped off, as I believed to be buying the LIMITED COLLECTOR'S EDITION. I bought it from Amazon.co.uk, and I still had to pay the equivalent of $670. If I had bought from the US, I would risk even more taxes. Often, when I buy stuff from the US, I have to pay more than a 100 percent in taxes. So, of course, for me it seemed the only logical choice to buy from Amazon.co.uk.
Damnit, I want that autograph and extra cd!
Good for you that i live in DK too and i did order from WB. I can Help you with the CD but not he autograph.
så bare tag det roligt. 
Det lyder godt
What I just do not understand, is that if they can not respect their 1000 first customers (their number!) from wherever they would buy it, why was it even possible to pre-order it at Amazon as a Collector's edition? What if less than a thousand had bought it from elfmanburton.com would it still had been a problem to get it out to Amazon-customers? It seems to me, that they should have kept the Limited edition to the elfmanburton.com website and then IF there was a demand, THEN release it through other channels. It makes no sense to say:
"The first 1000 are going to be spoiled to a bonus cd, but unfortunately we are not able to count to a 1000."
But if they make it possible to PRE-ORDER at other stores such as Amazon, then that should be just as valid as buying from WB. To me this seems like strange special treatment. The statement from WB should instead had read:
"The first 1000 WB-customers will be treated to a bonus. Everybody else suck!"
Really, this means that all pre-orders from any other place than WB would NEVER get a Collector's edition but just a "standard" edition. Isn't it fake advertisement to say that the 1000 who pre-order first get a Collector's edition when this really isn't the case? Nowhere did I read: Only WB customers get the Collector's edition.
I wouldn't even mind waiting until July if I would just get that autographed bonus CD which I feel entitled to.
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Nov 29, 2010 - 2:37 PM
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JFrederik
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Nowhere did I read: Only WB customers get the Collector's edition.
But nowhere, either, did you read that it WASN'T the case. Nowhere did it state that WB authorized Amazon, etc. to list the 'collector's edition' for sale on their sites. I'm certainly sympathetic, but no-one who feels entitled to the bonus CD has addressed the question of whether Amazon was, in fact, taking orders for the 'collector's edition' and not just the regular edition.
But, at that time, the collector's edition was all there was. No regular edition existed at that time. It was just supposed to be the 1000 and then, the end.
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Nov 29, 2010 - 2:37 PM
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fommes
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Did anyone of you, by any small chance, take a screenshot of Amazon's web page at the time of pre-ordering? I swear I remember reading "Limited, Collector's Edition" under Product information.
Also, I'd say, don't cancel your Amazon pre-orders yet. We still have two months to kindly ask WB if they would like to accommodate the people who pre-ordered at other sites and thought they were buying the limited edition, with the bonus disc. They could certainly do this, especially unsigned (and it's the music that counts, after all).
I'd encourage everyone to send friendly (!) email requests to WB, carefully explaining the matter. People can still cancel their order in January, if it doesn't work out.
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I could have saved $100 by ordering it through Amazon. But I did not. I chose to support Elfman and the producers of this set. I think it's kind of cool that I will be rewarded for my support of the production.
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Nov 29, 2010 - 2:47 PM
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JFrederik
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Did anyone of you, by any small chance, take a screenshot of Amazon's web page at the time of pre-ordering? I swear I remember reading "Limited, Collector's Edition" under Product information.
Also, I'd say, don't cancel your Amazon pre-orders yet. We still have two months to kindly ask WB if they would like to accommodate the people who pre-ordered at other sites and thought they were buying the limited edition, with the bonus disc. They could certainly do this, especially unsigned (and it's the music that counts, after all).
I'd encourage everyone to send friendly (!) email requests to WB, carefully explaining the matter. People can still cancel their order in January, if it doesn't work out.
Even unsigned would make my day. Somehow, the reason the buying this box was to get it all... It is not even out yet and already it is incomplete... I second the motion of emailing requests to WB, hopefully there is still time! Even though I already tried and got the answer that it wasn't their problem but Amazon's... But after all, it is WB who is the distributor and are the ones who send out the bonus discs so they must somehow be responsible.
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I could have saved $100 by ordering it through Amazon. But I did not. I chose to support Elfman and the producers of this set. I think it's kind of cool that I will be rewarded for my support of the production.
$100 for a CD single of Elfman playing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas"?
AND his signature.
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Nov 29, 2010 - 5:54 PM
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AJ
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The same for me, as I live in Denmark. I feel ripped off, as I believed to be buying the LIMITED COLLECTOR'S EDITION. I bought it from Amazon.co.uk...
So, your dispute is w/ Amazon.co.uk. Warner Bros. Records owes you nothing, as you did not purchase from them.
Damnit, I want that autograph and extra cd!
Then, you should have pre ordered from WBR. But, apparently, the money savings from Amazon meant more to you than the concrete assurance that you would receive the Elfman/Burton box set had you pre ordered directly from WBR. That was a serious leap of faith on your part that a 1000 piece limited edition would have sufficient supply to fulfill pre orders from Amazon (or, for that matter, any other reseller).
And, please, stop trying to rationalize your choice by griping about international shipping, taxes, duties, etc., because you live in Europe. That would be like an American complaining about much higher gas prices in the US than in Saudi Arabia.
AJ
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Dannyboy will be the guest on Morning Becomes Eclectic on KCRW LA tomorrow morning at 11:30am PST. Check out their website at wwwDOTkcrwDOTcom. Maybe he can straighten this all out.  For all the malcontents.
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Nov 29, 2010 - 6:22 PM
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Scott
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The same for me, as I live in Denmark. I feel ripped off, as I believed to be buying the LIMITED COLLECTOR'S EDITION. I bought it from Amazon.co.uk...
So, your dispute is w/ Amazon.co.uk. Warner Bros. Records owes you nothing, as you did not purchase from them.
Damnit, I want that autograph and extra cd!
Then, you should have pre ordered from WBR. But, apparently, the money savings from Amazon meant more to you than the concrete assurance that you would receive the Elfman/Burton box set had you pre ordered directly from WBR. That was a serious leap of faith on your part that a 1000 piece limited edition would have sufficient supply to fulfill pre orders from Amazon (or, for that matter, any other reseller).
And, please, stop trying to rationalize your choice by griping about international shipping, taxes, duties, etc., because you live in Europe. That would be like an American complaining about much higher gas prices in the US than in Saudi Arabia.
AJ
I believe the set was originally announced as a limited 1000 piece run. With that in mind one would think that WB would have sold amazon some of it's stock from that 1000 batch. Otherwise, why would amazon offer the set in the first place? I'm not sure if full disclosure was going on here.
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Alarm bells began to go off when I saw it was almost one hundred dollars cheaper. Beware, indeed.
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Did any of you read the fine print???
I just read, every fifth one is free and comes with the complete scores on cassette as well. Why am I the only one who saw that?
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Nov 29, 2010 - 7:10 PM
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AJ
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I believe the set was originally announced as a limited 1000 piece run. With that in mind one would think that WB would have sold amazon some of it's stock from that 1000 batch. Otherwise, why would amazon offer the set in the first place?
Nope, probably not. Most likely, WBR offered Amazon (and other resellers) an opportunity to take pre orders on any limited edition sets that WBR itself had left over after its own sales. (As evidence, note that Amazon's original release date was later than WBR's release date.) However, WBR, perhaps to its own surprise, sold out the full 1000 by mid November. So, WBR had no excess inventory nor any need for the resellers. At that point, WBR told Amazon something to the effect, "We're sold out. Thanks, though." And Amazon responded, "But, hey, wait, we have XXX number of pre orders." And that number of pre orders was unexpectedly high, thus, the unlimited edition was born to fill that unmet demand and save face for the resellers.
AJ
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Nov 29, 2010 - 7:11 PM
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.
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Then, you should have pre ordered from WBR. But, apparently, the money savings from Amazon meant more to you than the concrete assurance that you would receive the Elfman/Burton box set had you pre ordered directly from WBR. That was a serious leap of faith on your part that a 1000 piece limited edition would have sufficient supply to fulfill pre orders from Amazon (or, for that matter, any other reseller).
And, please, stop trying to rationalize your choice by griping about international shipping, taxes, duties, etc., because you live in Europe. That would be like an American complaining about much higher gas prices in the US than in Saudi Arabia.
AJ
The products were bought on the understanding it was an issue of 1000. If, say, 300 were available through Amazon, it is WB who sanctioned them being there and sold them to Amazon for distribution.
Of course, the real problem here is that WB lied and decided the 1000 edition would not be made, and that they would change their minds and make several thousands more because they'd underestimated the demand. Everything was halted at their end and a single, much bigger run was scheduled, which would not be ready till February. There never was and never will be a limited edition of 1000 produced. They'll all be the same. But to fob off the original buyers, they fabricated an idea to include an afterthought bonus CD to keep them quiet. They've reneged on their initial contract with those who ordered the so-called limited edition of 1000, but it looks like most here are easily appeased.
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