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Not really, I have a 117+ singles and a few more box sets to go then I will be happy. I will not sell them here on the FSM Trading Post, they will end up on Amazon and eBay. A few people have sent e-mails to me asking if I have certain titles, please check your e-mails, I have replied with what titles are still available, with prices below the original price, thank you.
Oh, wow....you know you've seriously lost it, mate.
Yeah, I have lost it, that is why I have $1,435.00 in my PayPal account that came in less than 48 hours in just FSM release sales!! They were all used (not sealed) and sold for less than the original price! I am making some people very happy and cleansing my collection. Call me crazy, oh well, I now have some extra money that was just sitting on my shelves and the titles sold so far will not be missed. No, I did not rip them to another media, I have always believed in the pure sound of CD.
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Mar 10, 2012 - 2:22 PM
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John Smith,
Okay, I confess I regret that our interchange has gone sour. Let's just say I am stupefied by the reactions to what I consider to be a good and fan-friendly decision.
You said:
As I said, you refuse to address the real issues I raise
OK, so let's back track.
Let's re-cap: what are the real issues you raise?
I thought I'd got them but maybe I didn't.
You said:
I asked you very straightforward questions to which the answer is either "yes" or "no". For example:
Am I right in assuming that, in your opinion, every soundtrack producer has the right to press as many copies of limited releases as his fancy takes him - as long as he feels the market can take it? If Bruce wants to press five thousand copies of his CDs he can do so with impunity - he doesn't even have to tell us that there are more than the "legal" 1000 copies (or so) in existence?
And you turn this into:
"Do I think Lukas should be able to re-press CDs? Yes, as long as it's legal."
I don't have to tell you that this is not the question I asked you.
The reason I didn't answer the question as you put it is it was a leading and loaded question. The last sentence, a loaded rider which introduces presupposed criminal activity, is designed to make it impossible for me to say 'yes'.
If I take the first part alone: "Am I right in assuming that, in your opinion, every soundtrack producer has the right to press as many copies of limited releases as his fancy takes him - as long as he feels the market can take it?"
The answer is an absolute, emphatic YES. Why not? Don't you?
I don't give a stuff for the preciousness of limitedness. It's the music and it's availability to those who want to enjoy it I champion.
But the leading and loaded part, the: "doesn't even have to tell us that there are more than the "legal" 1000 copies (or so) in existence?"
I didn't say I supported unlicensed re-pressings. And I won't be 'led' into saying that either. When Lukas over-ran the agreed print runs in the past, I was disappointed. However, I felt he made amends and set things right.
You raised the spectre of legality here. You also previously raised the UK Sales Of Goods Act before, and talked about this act upsetting "enforcers of consumer protection legislation."
Let's just be clear. Do you think Lukas is acting illegally here?
I know in an earlier post you protested that Lukas can't be trusted; that you suspected he knew all along he would be re-pressing and the initial limit was just to dupe people into buying. Well, if you believe that's true, I can understand your protest about that. Personally, I don't believe that and I think he took a fan-friendly decision by extending the run. I do not think he is morally wrong to do it for further financial gain either.
Cheers
Mr Woolston,
First, let me say that I am only too happy to foster a more convivial relationship between us.
I hope you had the opportunity of reading my earlier post in which I quote Doug Fake. It offers irrefutable evidence that my opinions are reflected in the upper echelons of the soundtrack industry.
As for your remarks above, I didn't actually say that Lukas can't be trusted at all. I said that people with a strong Machiavellian bent might suspect that he had a master plan involving a subsequent repressing of Ben-Hur. This was pure speculation on my part as does not necessarily refect my own opinion.
I have, however, stated in later posts that trust is extremely important in the soundtrack business and the legend printed on each CD stating the print-run is a reflection of that trust. Doug Fake says much the same thing in the quote I cited earlier. Please read it if you haven't already.
If Lukas insists on repressing Ben-Hur with the same legend as before ("limited to a pressing of 2,000"), then he is setting himself up for justifiable censure. Whatever you say about "a fan-friendly decision" (which I happen to agree with and support), it doesn't change my belief that no soundtrack producer is comfortable with what Lukas has done in the past and is doing now. Bruce Kimmel has deliberately refrained from commenting directly on Lukas's actions and there is no comment from Doug Fake on the Intrada website. If Lukas's actions were not perceived as morally or ethically wrong in the eyes of the business, you can rest assured that support for him would have poured in from these quarters. The deafening silence suggests tacit disapproval for the reasons I have repeated time and again.
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, that is why I have $1,435.00 in my PayPal account that came in less than 48 hours in just FSM release sales!! They were all used (not sealed) and sold for less than the original price! I am making some people very happy and cleansing my collection. Call me crazy, oh well, I now have some extra money that was just sitting on my shelves and the titles sold so far will not be missed. No, I did not rip them to another media, I have always believed in the pure sound of CD.
Seek advice before it is too late.
Save yourself.
I am saved! That is 3 months of major utilities bills!
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BasilFSM / alias Pinkie Pie,
Still kissing purple MLP butt I see!
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, that is why I have $1,435.00 in my PayPal account that came in less than 48 hours in just FSM release sales!! They were all used (not sealed) and sold for less than the original price! I am making some people very happy and cleansing my collection. Call me crazy, oh well, I now have some extra money that was just sitting on my shelves and the titles sold so far will not be missed. No, I did not rip them to another media, I have always believed in the pure sound of CD.
Seek advice before it is too late.
Save yourself.
I am saved! That is 3 months of major utilities bills!
Why are you still here? Surely if you are so deeply offended by whatever it is you think Lukas has done that you feel you have to sell all your FSM CDs (which will not change the fact that you have already given Lukas money for all those CDs, so you're not exactly sticking it to the man with your futile gesture), then you should also stop using his internet message board.
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Computer lock up...next
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Everyone say that Lukas owns his business and he can run it the way he wants and I agree with that. My collection has been made with my money over the years to support his business. Can I not do what I want to with MY collection? I paid for every release just like everyone else.
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Posted: |
Mar 10, 2012 - 3:27 PM
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JOHN SMITH: If Lukas insists on repressing Ben-Hur with the same legend as before ("limited to a pressing of 2,000"), then he is setting himself up for justifiable censure.
This is a nonsense. You have no legitimate argument.
All the sets are labeled correctly.
A CD from the first pressing was one of 2000.
And when the next pressing arrives, each set purchased will also be one of a pressing of 2000.
If there's a third pressing of 2000, the legend on the back will still be correct.
You apparently want the pressings distinguished from each other, at additional printing expense, for some unjustified reason. There is no reason why they should be, nor is there any logical argument you can make for there being such a reason. The description on the case of either pressing is 100% correct.
And to continue... apart from anything else, having gone to such lengths to argue against the wording on the back, you'd do well to quote it accurately and not skew it to meet your needs.
Your invented so-called quote of "limited to a pressing of 2,000" suggests a limitation of one pressing. In fact, the legend on the case says no such thing at all. It says "THIS PRESSING IS LIMITED TO 2000 COPIES" which if anything is suggestive of further pressings.
Your arguments are hogwash, I'm afraid.
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