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 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

I'm starting to like the cardboard jewel boxes with clear trays and/or pouches....I see more releases using these and the best thing about them is they won't break in shipping.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

This project is a big undertaking. I hope not only film score fans, but Trekies in general snatch this up. I rember the day when a person could only dream about something like this, and now it is reality. Specialty lables, you guys rock.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

This project is a big undertaking. I hope not only film score fans, but Trekies in general snatch this up. I rember the day when a person could only dream about something like this, and now it is reality. Specialty lables, you guys rock.

I think La-La-Land will have a huge response for this as the music seems to resonate with even non-soundtrack fans. When I think back to all the people I knew who weren't musicians or soundtrack collectors who had the soundtrack to Star Wars (and in many cases, Jaws) in their LP collections it makes me very hopeful that people will similarly embrace this release (of course, not in those same numbers as the Williams' double LP - because at $200+ this is a costly collection) as the music themes composed all those years ago by Steiner, Fried, Kaplan and Courage have arguably become as much a part of our pop culture as the series itself.

I want to add this is without question the most exciting soundtrack release in my life. This music inspired me to want to write my own (music) and I'm very grateful to not only the "Trek" composers but also to Robert Justman for being the kind of producer who recognized and appreciated the special power music has and for hiring the perfect composers for this series. As a result, Star Trek never had a bad score (and because of the talents of Robert Raff, Richard Lapham and, particularly, Jim Henrikson, never a bad tracked one).

And yes, La-La land, Intrada, Kritzerland and FSM rocks!

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This project is a big undertaking. I hope not only film score fans, but Trekies in general snatch this up. I rember the day when a person could only dream about something like this, and now it is reality. Specialty lables, you guys rock.

I remember all the way back in the early 70's wishing I could get the score for The Doomsday Machine. Knowing it was just a pipe dream. Then out of the blue I found Crescendo's CD while randomly browsing scores in the early 90's. Move forward to 2012 and LLL gives us all the music from ST TOS.
Never thought I would live to see the day.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

That's actually why I was hoping it might be included; because it wouldn't require doing all the research anew. The documentation exists, but there is nowhere that we are ever likely to be able to see it. The distinction is, if you knew with 100% certainty that you would never have a Superman II release, then yes, it might make sense to list those score tracks in the "Superman" booklet. If we don't get those lists in this set, we are never going to see them anywhere.

The set is still of major historical importance no matter what they put in the booklet, but I was just hoping for those lists.


Wouldn't its inclusion have made the booklet almost twice as long (and possibly jacked up the price even more)?

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Well, supposedly previous season cues/themes were re-recorded, but sometimes I'm not so sure because, to my ears, the "rerecords" sound exactly like the originals (same tempi, nuance). By contrast, if you listen to the second and third season main titles they sound quite different (both using Courage's 1967 updated arrangement, featuring the trumpet playing the fanfare in augmentation to the horn call). I suppose you could get the same sound if you used the same musicians, but this was stuff that was read down in rapid succession, so I can't imagine much time was spent on "let's make this sound like the one we made ten months ago."

For example, The Lights of Zetar in the 3rd season used cues from Where No Man Has Gone Before (1st season - pilot). They were identical and unless they really did bend over backward to make them sound indistinguishable from the originals (which would be odd since they didn't for any other re-recorded cues), they ignored or got around the union rules.

And this union... Was it supposed to be universal or was it aimed at specific production companies.?What I mean is, Star Trek was forced to re-record cues every year, but Fox shows like Lost in Space and Voyage reused the same music throughout their runs. John Williams' LiS scores were tracked all 3 years. Jerry Goldsmith's Voyage cues were also reused for years.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   comouelletter   (Member)

The Original Series music being released in dribs and drabs, and then suddenly this deluge. Bring it on. But please no Ensign Riley singing Irish ballads. frown

-Rick O.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   geoff337   (Member)

Don't know if anyone's mused or cares about it, but I wonder if any Animated Series music will be included... Some good stuff there.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Don't know if anyone's mused or cares about it, but I wonder if any Animated Series music will be included... Some good stuff there.

I think on that series Ray Ellis wrote a library (as he did for "Fat Albert", "New Adventures of Gilligan" and other Filmmation Productions) that was utilized for both seasons. Maybe "Yesteryear" was "scored," but I'm not sure.

Yes, there was some fine music on TAS...and you could probably get all of those cues on to a single disk.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Did I read it correctly that some third season episodes had original scores written for them but never used? If that is the case, could we possibly see a re-release of the series (on video) with the missing music tracked into those third season episodes? confused

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   CDDA   (Member)

How much time took to produce the box set?
Did you have any licensing issue?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

What I find fascinating about season three is how well the scores for "The Day of the Dove," "All Our Yesterdays" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" work despite the fact no original music was written for those segments but rather culled from cues composed for "The Enterprise Incident," "Spock's Brain" "Elaan of Troyus" and "And The Children Shall Lead." In season one, "The Galileo Seven" is beautifully "scored" with cues from every full/partial score recorded for that season (except, I believe, "Shore Leave").

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Has anybody else not received their confirmation email yet? I haven't been following this thread too closely, so I apologize if it has already been discussed...

I still have no response to my three attempts to register, nor to me direct email. frown

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

That's a good question about the Irwin Allen shows. In some cases shows would do token rerecordings just to say they did but then they'd still use the original takes they liked. And Star Trek did break the rules from time to time--music from Where No Man Has Gone Before and What Are Little Girls Made Of? did show up in season three and they are the original first season recordings (I remember asking Fred Steiner about that and him registering some real displeasure about that). From what Fred said the production was actually obligated to DESTROY tapes of recorded music at the end of each season so they could not be used--so thank God they didn't follow that rule!

No TAS will be included, as much as we would love to--it's a different production company and in any case Ray Ellis told me that music has long since been lost. But as far as the cue sheets go, we have scans of all of them--there isn't room to include them in the booklet but I do think it would be interesting for people to have them and maybe cut together their own "tracked" scores. smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

What I find fascinating about season three is how well the scores for "The Day of the Dove," "All Our Yesterdays" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" work despite the fact no original music was written for those segments but rather culled from cues composed for "The Enterprise Incident," "Spock's Brain" "Elaan of Troyus" and "And The Children Shall Lead." In season one, "The Galileo Seven" is beautifully "scored" with cues from every full/partial score recorded for that season (except, I believe, "Shore Leave").

Many times the music editing on the series was amazing. I love the work done on Assignment: Earth, the entire episode was well tracked with music from Trek's history.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

What I find fascinating about season three is how well the scores for "The Day of the Dove," "All Our Yesterdays" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" work despite the fact no original music was written for those segments but rather culled from cues composed for "The Enterprise Incident," "Spock's Brain" "Elaan of Troyus" and "And The Children Shall Lead." In season one, "The Galileo Seven" is beautifully "scored" with cues from every full/partial score recorded for that season (except, I believe, "Shore Leave").

Many times the music editing on the series was amazing. I love the work done on Assignment: Earth, the entire episode was well tracked with music from Trek's history.


Yes, I think mostly with music from, of all things, Fried's scores for "Friday's Child" and "Catspaw" (and also Steiner's quintessential menace music from "What Little Girls Are Made Of")

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Oh I was wondering if the re-recording of the main title and end credits used for the remastered seriesbe included as a bonus in the set would be included??

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Registration Update: I just resubmitted my email, name information -- and received an instant confirmation -- so all is well! The more I think about this set, the more excited I get. A tremendous release.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Oh I was wondering if the re-recording of the main title and end credits used for the remastered seriesbe included as a bonus in the set would be included??

I think that's there, too, though I don't know how many of the re-recorded titles are included. Believe they did three of the MT: Courage season 1, Steiner season 1 (melody in cello, horn countermelody in woodwinds), Courage season 2. At the time it was deemed that the season two and three arrangement didn't change (except for the voice taken out) so there's no new third season orch. recording. Not sure about the end title, probably two versions (Steiner season 1, Courage? season 2).

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2012 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

No TAS will be included, as much as we would love to--it's a different production company and in any case Ray Ellis told me that music has long since been lost. But as far as the cue sheets go, we have scans of all of them--there isn't room to include them in the booklet but I do think it would be interesting for people to have them and maybe cut together their own "tracked" scores. smile

For those wanting Filmation series music, check out this YouTube video. Some highly motivated person apparently went through all the episodes to piece this together from dialogue free sections.

Mike

 
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