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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2017 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I'm grateful they caught this before shipping, and are taking the time to correct the issue. I'd rather wait a few more days for a flawless disc. smile

Seconded.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2017 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

I'm grateful they caught this before shipping, and are taking the time to correct the issue. I'd rather wait a few more days for a flawless disc. smile

Seconded.


I'm grateful they caught this too. We will be much happier customers with an error-free product in our hands, albeit, a few days later. I'm still on cloud nine regarding this release. Very, very happy that we are getting John Williams done right by one of our favorite labels.

As for Thomas, if he can't say anything nice then perhaps he could do everyone a favor and visit another thread.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2017 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

ET says "I'll...be...right...here" Or not.

Just wait another six weeks and make it a Black Friday title. smile


LOL!

I've been procrastinating on placing my order. Guess that wasn't such a bad thing after all.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2017 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Or we can all just listen to the releases we've had for 20+ years with the same music. No surprises here folks.

For some reason, I avoid listening a particular score when I know a new release is coming out. I rationalize it to myself by saying it is so that it can be more fresh when it comes around, but I think it is really just a kind of OCD thing.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2017 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

Or we can all just listen to the releases we've had for 20+ years with the same music. No surprises here folks.

For some reason, I avoid listening a particular score when I know a new release is coming out. I rationalize it to myself by saying it is so that it can be more fresh when it comes around, but I think it is really just a kind of OCD thing.


I'm in a huge mood to spin E.T. and CEOT3K, but yeah, I'm holding off until I get the LLL releases. Don't want to get burnt out before I get the remastered expansions.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2017 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Sometimes I get the impression some of you listen to the everything you own every week, somehow. I wish I had the ability to slow down time like that.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2017 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

This is the greatest achievement of La-La Land Records since Star Trek: The Original Series Soundtrack Collection, or maybe Krull.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2017 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Sometimes I get the impression some of you listen to the everything you own every week, somehow. I wish I had the ability to slow down time like that.

Some people just have very small collections I think!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   E-Wan   (Member)

Is it correct that if I want all film versions I have to keep 2002 CD edition?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT0E9cHkK-SqctUuLKYjNov1cm3DB7Dol3CCfQqmXPJUbNqwIrwdNTtn4FqV212S-3e_GltYaEDIUM8/pubhtml

E.T. Is Alive - 2002 CD version is film edit and not the complete cue


Is there anything else from previous editions what differs from La-La Land 2CD set?

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


Is it correct that if I want all film versions I have to keep 2002 CD edition?


No, that is not correct. The new LLL ET is 100% complete. The only thing prior CD versions have to offer is some incorrect TAKES instead of the proper takes JW chose for the film.


E.T. Is Alive - 2002 CD version is film edit and not the complete cue


The 2002 CD features the film EDIT - not some kind of different film VERSION. In other words, the scene was shortened after scoring, so a section of the middle of the cue was snipped out along with the footage. The 2002 CD featured that edited version with the bit removed, instead of the full unedited cue, which the 1982 OST, 1996 CD, and of course LLL CD all offer.


Is there anything else from previous editions what differs from La-La Land 2CD set?

Nope, again, just different TAKES were on old CDs. The LLL features the performance of the music JW wanted to be heard in the film throughout. Older CDs featured the wrong takes at times.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Is ET PHONE HOME (ost lp) the scene in the forest when he tries to send the signal and/or gets sick?
What is the 2002 equivalent/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   E-Wan   (Member)


Is it correct that if I want all film versions I have to keep 2002 CD edition?


No, that is not correct. The new LLL ET is 100% complete. The only thing prior CD versions have to offer is some incorrect TAKES instead of the proper takes JW chose for the film.


E.T. Is Alive - 2002 CD version is film edit and not the complete cue


The 2002 CD features the film EDIT - not some kind of different film VERSION. In other words, the scene was shortened after scoring, so a section of the middle of the cue was snipped out along with the footage. The 2002 CD featured that edited version with the bit removed, instead of the full unedited cue, which the 1982 OST, 1996 CD, and of course LLL CD all offer.


Is there anything else from previous editions what differs from La-La Land 2CD set?

Nope, again, just different TAKES were on old CDs. The LLL features the performance of the music JW wanted to be heard in the film throughout. Older CDs featured the wrong takes at times.


And according to your amazing comparison all these different/wrong takes are in the bonus section of Disc 2.
So actually all these different takes are on La-La Land 2CD set and all 3 previous editions can be thrown away.

Thank you very much for clarification! Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)


Is it correct that if I want all film versions I have to keep 2002 CD edition?


No, that is not correct. The new LLL ET is 100% complete. The only thing prior CD versions have to offer is some incorrect TAKES instead of the proper takes JW chose for the film.


E.T. Is Alive - 2002 CD version is film edit and not the complete cue


The 2002 CD features the film EDIT - not some kind of different film VERSION. In other words, the scene was shortened after scoring, so a section of the middle of the cue was snipped out along with the footage. The 2002 CD featured that edited version with the bit removed, instead of the full unedited cue, which the 1982 OST, 1996 CD, and of course LLL CD all offer.


Is there anything else from previous editions what differs from La-La Land 2CD set?

Nope, again, just different TAKES were on old CDs. The LLL features the performance of the music JW wanted to be heard in the film throughout. Older CDs featured the wrong takes at times.


And according to your amazing comparison all these different/wrong takes are in the bonus section of Disc 2.
So actually all these different takes are on La-La Land 2CD set and all 3 previous editions can be thrown away.

Thank you very much for clarification! Thanks!


That clarifies my question about the different takes! (Great spreadsheet BTW Jason, very comprehensive!) I have one question about The Departure. Is the disc 1 version the same as the LP version, or are all 3 versions of The Departure at the very least subtly different from one another? I know you probably have it spelled out in your spreadsheet, but my mind is kind of reeling from the complexity of it!

Thanks in advance to the folks in the know!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


Is ET PHONE HOME (ost lp) the scene in the forest when he tries to send the signal and/or gets sick?
What is the 2002 equivalent/


No. The scene in the forest where ET sends the signal home is 7M2/8M1 E.T.'s Machine, which was not on the original OST at all and was titled "Sending the Signal" on the 1996, 2002, and LLL CDs.

"ET Phone Home" on the OST LP is 10M2 E.T. Phones Home, which was titled "E.T. Is Alive!" on the 1996 CD and "E.T. Is Alive" on the 2002 and LLL CDs. That's the cue for him coming back to life after "dying" just before the finale.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


That clarifies my question about the different takes! (Great spreadsheet BTW Jason, very comprehensive!) I have one question about The Departure. Is the disc 1 version the same as the LP version, or are all 3 versions of The Departure at the very least subtly different from one another? I know you probably have it spelled out in your spreadsheet, but my mind is kind of reeling from the complexity of it!

Thanks in advance to the folks in the know!


11M4/12M1R The Departure has two points with notable differences:

1) The "Ouch" scene {approx 3:11-3:28}, which Williams originally wrote one way using the main theme (which is how he performs the cue in concert), but was replaced in the film with the "Steven's Fix" insert (the really extra-syrupy string passage).

2) The "I'll be right here" scene {approx 4:38-4:40}, for which he recorded a horn overlay (basically two extra blasts) that Steven decided not to use in the film after all, keeping the cue as it was originally recorded there.

So all the various released versions over the years have had various combinations of using or not using those two later-made recordings:

the actual film: YES Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
OST LP: YES Steven's Fix Insert, YES horn overlay
1996 CD: NO Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
2002 CD: NO Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
LLL CD 1 track 22: YES Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
LLL CD 2 track 19: NO Steven's Fix Insert, YES horn overlay


TL;DR: The disc 1 version is actually what is heard in the film, so uses the Steven's Fix Insert but not the horn overlay; the OST LP version always had the Steven's Fix Insert as well as the horn overlay; the Disc 2 bonus track Alternate version is everything that is opposite of the film version, so has the original passage as JW recorded it instead of the Steven's Fix insert, and includes the horn overlay commissioned for the film that went unused there.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Honestly, one of the main advantages of this set, like Star Trek: The Motion Picture before it, is to finally be able to definitively sort out all of the variations that have been out there over the years.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

How is it after all these years no one noticed that the first 18 seconds of Invading Elliot's Home on the 96 and 02 version was not the film take? But finally, the correct film take premieres on DISC one of the new LLL release.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


Honestly, one of the main advantages of this set, like Star Trek: The Motion Picture before it, is to finally be able to definitively sort out all of the variations that have been out there over the years.


I would argue the opposite: That we finally have a release we can just put in and press play and know that everything is there, and that its all the correct versions of everything; We no longer need to cobble together various bits from various places.

The only change I made for my personal playlist is adding The Kiss, and The Levitation into the main program instead of being bonus tracks.


And actually, I prefer the original opening of "Searching for ET" over the version with the revised opening; The original version has a nice "Start of Act 3!" feel, while the revised opening is basically just a few bars from later in the cue re-recorded.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


How is it after all these years no one noticed that the first 18 seconds of Invading Elliot's Home on the 96 and 02 version was not the film take? But finally, the correct film take premieres on DISC one of the new LLL release.


I will admit I had never noticed that one myself! It's the same music, just a different tempo between the two versions.

The big difference in that track is of course the organ passage from 1:00-1:33, which has a flute line over it on the disc 2 version.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)


Honestly, one of the main advantages of this set, like Star Trek: The Motion Picture before it, is to finally be able to definitively sort out all of the variations that have been out there over the years.
I would argue the opposite: That we finally have a release we can just put in and press play and know that everything is there, and that its all the correct versions of everything; We no longer need to cobble together various bits from various places.


But that's exactly what I meant… the new sets allow us to have everything of these scores for which there were a lot of variations, but most importantly gives us the context for it all.

 
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