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 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I think calling the label owners 'fanboys who are terrified to make any artistic or editorial decisions'*, reeks of condescension.


*when they actually do this on many occasions, and get stick from listeners thereafter.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

So still no quotes from Octoberman, I see.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think calling the label owners 'fanboys who are terrified to make any artistic or editorial decisions'*, reeks of condescension.

Perhaps, but not towards fans of those particular releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I actually called out the thread as a 'wind-up', very early into proceedings.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

So still no quotes, I see.


If that's what your position is mounted on, then it's pretty weak.

Frankly, I would find it too tedious to go through all your posts to cherry-pick to prove what is already painfully self-evident.
... But that doesn't mean I won't do it later.... wink

big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I actually called out the thread as a 'wind-up', very early into proceedings.

And OnyaBirri specified that that was not the case.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I actually called out the thread as a 'wind-up', very early into proceedings.

And OnyaBirri specified that that was not the case.



Oh, of course it's not...
big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If you can't quote any specifics, then there is nothing there.


Don't kid yourself.
I occasionally look into this thread and post in it purely for the laughs merely because I recognized it for the wind-up it is.
The original premise is flawed and it's not something that hasn't been repeated ad absurdum by you many, many times before.
So I would say that if you have nothing new to bring to the table, then why bother? It's ancient shtick.

And please don't give me the tired response of "don't read it if you don't like it".
If you make your comments public, it practically invites reactions.

big grin


I know right? Pot Kettle Black. I'm fine with differing opinions. Ive not put down anyone for having a different opinion. Ive stated I actually like a lot of the older OST's and gone back to them in favor of some expansions. I've only challenged the personal attacks and falsehoods levied at the specialty labels.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

If that's what your position is mounted on, then it's pretty weak.

No, what is weak is just coming in with a "...and so have you!"-type answer with absolutely no quote to back it up. It's kindergarten rhetorics.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

If that's what your position is mounted on, then it's pretty weak.

No, what is weak is just coming in with a "...and so have you!"-type answer with absolutely no quote to back it up. It's kindergarten rhetorics.



Aaaand... there you go.
Another, less subtle example.

smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

Exactly, Onya. It's very interesting to me that many in the C&C crowd - the majority crowd, no less -- tend to be crude and personal in their replies. While we tend to be more issue-oriented. I wonder why that is? As if our differing preference is an attack on their very being? Strange.

Regarding the first observation, I know I saw you repeatedly say, "I don't give a fuck about film" or "the film" and the Caldera guy plain as day said, "Fuck C & C". To me, both of those are very crass and/or "crude". Onyi definitely has made clear and sometimes crude and personal insults towards people and the labels at least a couple times with his "film score fans couldn't get laid in a French whorehouse" comment, calling the label producers "jive-ass producers" and his constant generalizations and claims and name-calling of the label heads as "fanboys running the labels" and "producers in awe of their heroes who are afraid to make any kind of aesthetic decisions" comments though.

I will agree, you haven't attacked anybody personally with clear-cut insults. Although saying "your reasons don't make any sense" when I tried to explain why I feel the way I do about C & C releases seemed like it was sort of an under-handed insult to me.

You guys are no angels yourselves and definitely not holier than thou.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Onyi definitely has made clear and sometimes crude and personal insults towards people and the labels at least a couple times with his "film score fans couldn't get laid in a French whorehouse" comment.

I don't know who "Onyi" is, but that's pretty funny!

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

Onyi definitely has made clear and sometimes crude and personal insults towards people and the labels at least a couple times with his "film score fans couldn't get laid in a French whorehouse" comment.

I don't know who "Onyi" is, but that's pretty funny!



Hahahaha

By the way, are you a film score fan? Asking for a friend.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Regarding the first observation, I know I saw you repeatedly say, "I don't give a fuck about film" or "the film" and the Caldera guy plain as day said, "Fuck C & C". To me, both of those are very crass and/or "crude". Onyi definitely has made clear and sometimes crude and personal insults towards people and the labels at least a couple times with his "film score fans couldn't get laid in a French whorehouse" comment, calling the label producers "jive-ass producers" and his constant generalizations and claims and name-calling of the label heads as "fanboys running the labels" and "producers in awe of their heroes who are afraid to make any kind of aesthetic decisions" comments though.
I will agree, you haven't attacked anybody personally with clear-cut insults. Although saying "your reasons don't make any sense" when I tried to explain why I feel the way I do about C & C releases seemed like it was sort of an under-handed insult to me.
You guys are no angels yourselves and definitely not holier than thou.



I couldn't have said it better--particularly about the f-bombs.
In the case of the Caldera people, I would expect more professional verbiage.
It doesn't really lend them an air of reason or credibility.
But hey, maybe that's just me. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

By the way, are you a film score fan? Asking for a friend.

I would not categorize myself as a fan of film scores as a broad category.

I love jazz, 20th century classical, Afro-Cuban jazz, crime jazz, Brasilian, Space-Age Bachelor Pad, Now Sound, Funk, Exotica, Moog, Sitar, French pop, electronica, ambient, outer space music, other genres I'm probably forgetting.

If a film score fits into one or more of those categories, I may generally like it, or love it.

If it does not fit into one of those categories, even if it is by a composer I generally like, I have no interest in it.

I file by the aforementioned genres, so any film scores I own are filed there. I do not have film scores filed together in one location. Any one composer may appear in multiple sections, depending on what (s)he has done. I am not a completist of any composer, nor shall I ever be.

I hope that answers your question - or your friend's question.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Your tastes are very limited, Onya.
Mainly niche dance styles.
Quite blinkered.
You need to get out and hear more.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Your tastes are very limited, Onya.
Mainly niche dance styles.
Quite blinkered.
You need to get out and hear more.


Most of those genres are decidedly not dance music, and I don't dance.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I don't think you're listening to them properly.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I don't think you're listening to them properly.

Respectfully, based on your taste, I wouldn't trust your opinion.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2020 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

By the way, are you a film score fan? Asking for a friend.

I would not categorize myself as a fan of film scores as a broad category.

I love jazz, 20th century classical, Afro-Cuban jazz, crime jazz, Brasilian, Space-Age Bachelor Pad, Now Sound, Funk, Exotica, Moog, Sitar, French pop, electronica, ambient, outer space music, other genres I'm probably forgetting.

If a film score fits into one or more of those categories, I may generally like it, or love it.

If it does not fit into one of those categories, even if it is by a composer I generally like, I have no interest in it.

I file by the aforementioned genres, so any film scores I own are filed there. I do not have film scores filed together in one location. Any one composer may appear in multiple sections, depending on what (s)he has done. I am not a completist of any composer, nor shall I ever be.

I hope that answers your question - or your friend's question.


I like a lot of your musical preferences, Onya. Look at that, I spelled it right this time! I am guilty of being a super fan of a few composers, though I don't get every single release for any of them. I feel like my favorite composers have "peak" eras that I tend to focus on.

 
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