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I love part 2 and the score. I've listened to part 2 more than the first.
So those showing some love for part 2 are groovy folks.
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It's a shame that FSM didn't put the song in Richard Lawson's headphones on this two disc set. They put songs on TZ-TM and Gremlins. Confused on this one.
Song rights are not always available with the rest of the score. We're lucky if they are and can be included, as on the projects you mention, but in this case it likely wasn't possible. It's not a major blow - I LOVE songs being included, but even I wouldn't regard this as an essential track to have.
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So this was announced one year ago today, and while this may seem highly unusual I'd just like to ask... is there, in fact, a consensus that the FSM release is an improvement over the Rhino edition? And has it also satisfied those who have long supported the original LP presentation?
Mike M.
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HUGE improvement on the Rhino, and a bit scary, since it's one of my absolute
favorites, and I didn't have issue with that version until this one came out. What
other favorites am I hearing with muddled ears???
Perfect package, home run on the notes MM, this is how it should be done IMO.
Informative, trivia about the film and score, a good appreciation of the music and
the behind the scenes stuff - this is the way to go!
Also glad you included the LP program - I swore I would never go back after hearing
the complete score, but nostalgia drew me to give it a try, and you know....Goldsmith
put together a hell of a record, as usual - you really don't realize that until you compare
the complete vs. album sometimes. So, I happily alternate listens between album and
complete now - and what the HELL is up with that alternate Escape from Suburbia!
It's total madness in performance and conducting!
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So this was announced one year ago today, and while this may seem highly unusual I'd just like to ask... is there, in fact, a consensus that the FSM release is an improvement over the Rhino edition? And has it also satisfied those who have long supported the original LP presentation?
Mike M.
Yes!
Especially for inclusion of the original LP presentation which I much prefer to the complete score.
HUGE HUGE HUGE improvement!
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HUGE improvement on the Rhino, and a bit scary, since it's one of my absolute
favorites, and I didn't have issue with that version until this one came out. What
other favorites am I hearing with muddled ears???
Perfect package, home run on the notes MM, this is how it should be done IMO.
Informative, trivia about the film and score, a good appreciation of the music and
the behind the scenes stuff - this is the way to go!
Also glad you included the LP program - I swore I would never go back after hearing
the complete score, but nostalgia drew me to give it a try, and you know....Goldsmith
put together a hell of a record, as usual - you really don't realize that until you compare
the complete vs. album sometimes. So, I happily alternate listens between album and
complete now - and what the HELL is up with that alternate Escape from Suburbia!
It's total madness in performance and conducting!
Was that a whistle heard in the alternate "Escape"? No kidding, the first time I heard it I thought the fire alarm was going off. Scared the crap out of me.
-Rick O.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone.
I'd like to reveal, in case it wasn't apparent, that the source material used for the FSM release is exactly the same one that was used for the Rhino edition. It just proves what is possible with a combination of the proper time and attention and the wonders of advanced technology.
Bruce Botnick and I wrestled this alligator, and even snapped at each other a few times along the way, until we got it where we wanted it. Also, we did have the original LP master and neither of us thought it sounded very good at all. This was surprising since it had been praised so highly, at least as compared to the Rhino release. Bruce especially didn't like the ton of reverb on it and we even discovered that one track, "Night Visitor," had been incorrectly mixed on the album (the left and center channels were swapped). So we proceeded with a painstaking restoration of the analog elements and re-created the LP program from that.
A year ago I trusted that the result would speak for itself, but one year later I thought it would be interesting to make the details known now that listeners have some perspective on it.
Mike
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Adds holiday cheer to any home! 
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I can only attribute the LP preference to a personal predilection for the aesthetics of the era. In Bruce's studio it was apparent that much had been done to optimize it for vinyl. The levels were low and the strings seemed ear-splittingly shrill. While those things could have been addressed, it was the reverb that most made it feel dated. Then when the incorrect mix was discovered on that one track it was clear that the thing to do was re-create the LP program rather than inflict added frustration on the listener by having two completely different sounds.
Mike
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Sorry to interrupt the technical information with this Mike, but just so you know... this is perhaps the most perfect soundtrack release in my collection. Everything is flawless, and there's a treasure chest of music to go through, ensuring that it's never in any danger of becoming stale. I might go so far as to suggest it's the benchmark for expanded score presentations (and at present, equaled only by 1941).
I tip my hat to you, sir.
What he said!
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